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Posted on 3/28/14 at 12:41 pm to
Posted by Foolish cock
South Cak
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 3/28/14 at 12:41 pm to
But a slap on the wrist is window dressing. I have never thought of miami as an ncaa love child like unc.

I will say i thought socal was untouchable....so i was wrong about that.
Posted by randomways
North Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
12988 posts
Posted on 3/28/14 at 12:54 pm to
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But a slap on the wrist is window dressing. I have never thought of miami as an ncaa love child like unc.

I will say i thought socal was untouchable....so i was wrong about that.


If you want to discuss the severity/proportionality of the penalties, that's a different and entirely valid discussion. But it's also a much more complicated one, likely requiring charts, graphs, and massive stone tablets, since we'd have to do all sorts of apples and oranges comparisons. Initially, I'd point out that you can add Bama to the SoCal one...Bama was absolutely crippled by sanctions, so that wasn't a slap on the wrist.

(I listed Miami simply because they won the BCS and they are, or were, valuable to the NCAA because they have a large national fan base even if their local fan support leaves something to be desired.)
Posted by Cockopotamus
Member since Jan 2013
15740 posts
Posted on 3/28/14 at 1:17 pm to
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This is death penalty worthy.


Absolutely.

I wish ESPN would actually cover the story. I haven't seen one thing from them on it so I think the awareness of just how egregious they're violations were is way to low
Posted by DrunkenStuporMan
The Mothership
Member since Dec 2012
5855 posts
Posted on 3/28/14 at 1:24 pm to
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I imagine that this is the type of paper many OM football players write.
Agreed.























Posted by King of the North
Member since Aug 2013
771 posts
Posted on 3/28/14 at 1:29 pm to
I dont know man, that paper seems pretty A worthy
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
42695 posts
Posted on 3/28/14 at 1:41 pm to
I hate to be the bearer of bad news but this isn't just a problem with athletes. It's a problem that effects the entire student body. Why? Students in K-12 are no longer taught to write. Instead, they are taught to pass standardized tests.

You would not believe the number of smart kids who can't write a college paper -- they're not illiterate -- they have never been taught the mechanics of how to write one. Hell, most don't know how to write a 5 paragraph theme because they were never taught too.

Ever wonder why so many start college but never complete it or why the High School Valedictorian flames out? Wonder no more. The inability to write college papers kills them.

If you're a parent get on this NOW. I don't care how smart or good your child's grades are put him/her in a writing lab where they teach him/her to write academic papers if you want him/her to succeed because the K-12 schools are no longer teaching it. They're too busy teaching to the test.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
54973 posts
Posted on 3/28/14 at 1:58 pm to
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The investigation is still ongoing and the consequences will be very severe. They are not even close to being out of the woods.


Funny, that was the same thing they said when investigating UCLA and Papa Sam. They drug it on till most folks had forgotten then dropped it saying it was too old. This in spite of the investigation starting when it was still in the prosecution window.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
54973 posts
Posted on 3/28/14 at 2:04 pm to
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People say that all the time, but the evidence doesn't really bear it out. In this century alone, BCS title winners USC, Bama, FSU, LSU, OU, and Miami (just off the top of my head) have all been hit with sanctions and probations.


Southern Cal got a gift compared to what they actually did = NCAA "nice"
Bama has been hammered before and will get hammered again = NCAA "naughty"
Florida State is more naughty than nice so not NCAA immune
LSU is more naughty than nice so not NCAA immune
Oklahoma is more naughty than nice so not NCAA immune
Miami is more naughty than nice so not NCAA immune

When viewed by conference
B1G / ACC / PAC = more immune (ACC is more charter than non charter members)
B12 / SEC / OTR = less immune
Posted by Florida225
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
2835 posts
Posted on 3/28/14 at 2:13 pm to
What is that? A paper for ants!?
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
54973 posts
Posted on 3/28/14 at 2:13 pm to
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You would not believe the number of smart kids who can't write a college paper -- they're not illiterate -- they have never been taught the mechanics of how to write one.


This is even greater in math. They can add with a calculator but do not understand the mechanics of adding anymore.
Posted by Camp Randall
The Shadow of the Valley of Death
Member since Nov 2005
15605 posts
Posted on 3/28/14 at 2:14 pm to
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And I'm guessing the football player didn't even write that.


I agree. It's like the student paid to write the athletes paper just half-assed it.
Posted by PanhandleDawg
Navarre Beach, FL
Member since Mar 2011
5452 posts
Posted on 3/28/14 at 3:31 pm to
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I imagine that this is the type of paper many OM football players write.




Troll
Posted by OFWHAP
Member since Sep 2007
5416 posts
Posted on 3/28/14 at 4:46 pm to
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I agree. It's like the student paid to write the athletes paper just half-assed it.



It's as if the student had been pulling an all-nighter studying for his/her own classes and then realized that it was 8:30 AM, and the paper was due at 9:00 AM. Therefore he/she had to put SOMETHING on a sheet of paper. However UNC's a really difficult school to get into, so I'm not sure that a real student would write with such poor grammar. Maybe it was an ESL student receiving a stipend to help athletes. Or it could be that our ghost writer had to write the paper in a way that it was plausible that our "student-athlete" could have written it. We can't have illiterate athletes turning in Pullitzer Prize-winning papers.
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