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re: UGA's Ogletree and Rambo to Miss First 2 Football Games; Possibly 4
Posted on 3/28/12 at 10:59 pm to KillianRussell
Posted on 3/28/12 at 10:59 pm to KillianRussell
Thank you UGA for doing all you can to give us a shot at the W in our first SEC game. That is some mighty fine Southern hospitality. 
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Posted on 3/28/12 at 11:28 pm to Tigersessed
Maybe because I'm a middle class white kid, but I've never had a problem with the ACCPD. Been blackout drunk riding shotgun as a freshman when my friend was pulled over and didn't get arrested and two instances when I was riding drunk in a car and we got pulled over because we crammed way too many people in a car on the way downtown and showed my under 21 ID and was let go. Also had a time my friend was yelling at a guy across the street and we were confronted. Cop took all three of our fakes and let us go(after we initially lied about our age and said we were 21.)
Maybe I'm the luckiest mother fricker in Athens, but I've never seen or heard of anyone I know get arrested when they weren't doing something incredibly stupid.
Oh, and the only road game I've been to in college(WLCOP) I got an MIP within 5 minutes of cracking my first beer.
Maybe I'm the luckiest mother fricker in Athens, but I've never seen or heard of anyone I know get arrested when they weren't doing something incredibly stupid.
Oh, and the only road game I've been to in college(WLCOP) I got an MIP within 5 minutes of cracking my first beer.
Posted on 3/29/12 at 4:34 am to chilld28
Posted on 3/29/12 at 4:36 am to tween the hedges
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I've never had a problem with the ACCPD.
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Georgia Fan
This post was edited on 3/29/12 at 4:37 am
Posted on 3/29/12 at 7:32 am to chilld28
At some point you got to look at the man in charge. It's apparent Richt can't get these guys under control.
All programs have issues at times, but it seems to be a constant problem at UGA.
All programs have issues at times, but it seems to be a constant problem at UGA.
Posted on 3/29/12 at 8:28 am to Smash Mouth Tider
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All programs have issues at times, but it seems to be a constant problem at UGA.
The problem isn't with the players. You think players aren't blazing on the reg in tuscaloosa? You think whatshisname just magically took up smoking after leaving ttown and before the combine this year? It happens at every college campus on Earth. If these kids didn't come smoke at UGA, they'd be smoking at UF or UT or UA or ANY other school they did go to.
The problem is how we handle it. First of all, Georgia has (tied for the) most strict drug/alcohol policy in the SEC. That's not a Richt thing, it's a University/Michael Adams thing. There is, literally, nothing Richt can do as far as those guidelines are concerned.
Secondly, as has been extensively noted, in matters that Richt DOES have control over, he goes overboard to try to make a point. He's either trying to 1)Send a message to the other players to not frick up [which clearly hasn't worked] or 2)Doing what he thinks is "right" in keeping with his values, beliefs, and image.
All of the above are an unbelievable detriment to our team that no other SEC school faces, and I'm tired of it. We constantly do this shite to ourselves for no fricking reason other than trying to look good. I'm so over this crap.
Posted on 3/29/12 at 8:38 am to WG_Dawg
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There is, literally, nothing Richt can do as far as those guidelines are concerned.
Except for waiting to open an envelope until the Monday after the Florida game.
Posted on 3/29/12 at 8:39 am to Smash Mouth Tider
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It's apparent Richt can't get these guys under control.
Ugh, this is an extremely tired excuse. I agree that there is a possibility of "control" issues, but it has nothing to do with failing a drug test.
Posted on 3/29/12 at 8:45 am to Swoopin
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Except for waiting to open an envelope until the Monday after the Florida game
How can he open an envelope that's on his desk in Athens if he's in Jacksonville?
Seriously though, (and I'm NOT skirting the blame around Richt, see my last post for evidence of that) a lot of this starts at the actual top in Michael Adams. He's the one who is all anti-alcohol and tried to ban tailgating from north campus and is basically just a shithead in general that nobody likes. He's the one who is SOOOOOO concerned with trying to make UGA look like such a prestigious school like frickin harvard that he implemented these stupid arse rules. I mean literally, we aren't playing by the same rules as everyone else!
If we would cut that silly shite out of the UGA guidelines and have it just say "All punishment due to discretions/violations/arrests/etc by student athletes will be left up to the best discretion of the athlete's head coach", that would alleviate most of our problems. Richt would still go overboard with punishment, but at least he wouldn't have his hands tied if a kid gets a frickin MIP or something. We need to do that, and change the frick out of our drug testing policy.
Posted on 3/29/12 at 8:51 am to WG_Dawg
Posted on 3/29/12 at 8:52 am to WG_Dawg
While my natural tendency is to paint these problems as unfavorably and as damning as possible as UGA-specific flaws, I won't.
But with that said, I still think that you and many UGA fans are incapable of realizing that the truth is somewhere in the middle. It is not merely a systemic byproduct of administrative/police (over)discipline, nor is it that your roster is head and shoulders bigger shitheads than everyone else's teams.
While you can very legitimately claim that every school has a natural level of marijuana/petty discipline problems, one could also claim that it is completely unrealistic to say that UGA is the only program that keeps hendering itself with its discipline system. There are plenty of much more straight-laced schools and fanbases than UGA that don't seem to have this level of problems.
TL;DR: It is in the middle, and hearing yall say its a problem with administration of discipline is just a tiring as hearing "Thug POS" thrown around every day about yall.
Considering all that, what causes these elevated occurences of problems at UGA I cannot say for sure. But I think every honest UGA fan will confess that there is at least some reason to believe that the players don't fear his authority.
But with that said, I still think that you and many UGA fans are incapable of realizing that the truth is somewhere in the middle. It is not merely a systemic byproduct of administrative/police (over)discipline, nor is it that your roster is head and shoulders bigger shitheads than everyone else's teams.
While you can very legitimately claim that every school has a natural level of marijuana/petty discipline problems, one could also claim that it is completely unrealistic to say that UGA is the only program that keeps hendering itself with its discipline system. There are plenty of much more straight-laced schools and fanbases than UGA that don't seem to have this level of problems.
TL;DR: It is in the middle, and hearing yall say its a problem with administration of discipline is just a tiring as hearing "Thug POS" thrown around every day about yall.
Considering all that, what causes these elevated occurences of problems at UGA I cannot say for sure. But I think every honest UGA fan will confess that there is at least some reason to believe that the players don't fear his authority.
This post was edited on 3/29/12 at 8:54 am
Posted on 3/29/12 at 8:57 am to Swoopin
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But I think every honest UGA fan will confess that there is at least some reason to believe that the players don't fear his authority.
Machiavelli had something to say about this
Posted on 3/29/12 at 9:04 am to chilld28
@ Mizzou in week 2. This game is starting to reek of upset. I'm calling it now. Mizzou wins this one.
Posted on 3/29/12 at 9:07 am to Swoopin
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There are plenty of much more straight-laced schools and fanbases than UGA that don't seem to have this level of problems.
I don't care what they do at Kansas or Syracuse, all I'm concerned about is the SEC because that's who we compete against. Do you think that our players smoke weed or drink any more than players at auburn, florida, lsu, vandy, or any other SEC school? I don't. They're mostly black 18-22 year olds that are the kings of campus. They're going to smoke, it's inevitable.
You said other schools don't seem to have our level of problems? Well that goes back to my point in my last post, it's because at somewhere like ole miss a guy can fail a few drug tests and it doesn't even make the papers, at UGA he fails 1 and it's an automatic suspension.
This post was edited on 3/29/12 at 9:09 am
Posted on 3/29/12 at 9:15 am to WG_Dawg
I'm referring to the spectrum of issues, not just marijuana.
Posted on 3/29/12 at 9:26 am to Monticello
I agree...with 3 of our 4 starting DBs suspended and our 2nd best LB suspended, I don't think we really stand much of a chance against Missouri anymore. We'll keep it close, but I think Mizzou will light up our secondary late in the game. We're going to have to play fricking Blake Sailors and Connor Norman. Holy shite.
Posted on 3/29/12 at 9:31 am to GregYoureMyBoyBlue
Here's a good article. From this, I gather that the pot smokers are good at masking the results somehow. Over three years 4200 tests were given and there were only 34 athletes tested positive. Yet, During Boom's first year 4 idiots were arrested for weed.
Meyer is said to have a 3 strike policy and never went to 5 strikes in the article. Marcus Thomas was the example used.
None of this matters because kids are going to smoke pot. Boom has shown that he will boot his best player so I'm hopeful he can keep it under control as much as possible.
I am curious as to why UF and UG seem to be the schools with the most issues. We all recruit the same kids. Maybe ours get dumber when they arrive and they think they can just light up wherever they please. Most of the busts are in public (idiots).
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I don't think Boom is going to allow five strikes either. He better not anyway. I wish Machen would instruct the committee that handles the drug policy to tighten it up to three strikes. If you don't get the hint after the first two times you are never going to get the hint IMO.
Meyer is said to have a 3 strike policy and never went to 5 strikes in the article. Marcus Thomas was the example used.
None of this matters because kids are going to smoke pot. Boom has shown that he will boot his best player so I'm hopeful he can keep it under control as much as possible.
I am curious as to why UF and UG seem to be the schools with the most issues. We all recruit the same kids. Maybe ours get dumber when they arrive and they think they can just light up wherever they please. Most of the busts are in public (idiots).
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I don't think Boom is going to allow five strikes either. He better not anyway. I wish Machen would instruct the committee that handles the drug policy to tighten it up to three strikes. If you don't get the hint after the first two times you are never going to get the hint IMO.
Posted on 3/29/12 at 9:41 am to roadGator
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am curious as to why UF and UG seem to be the schools with the most issues. We all recruit the same kids
You're right. UGA, UF, AU, UA, UT, SC, etc all recruit the same kids. I wouldn't be surprised if some of those "random" tests at other schools weren't so "random" though.
Posted on 3/29/12 at 10:02 am to jagdawg
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CMR has to show these young adults who is the boss
#socrow
Posted on 3/29/12 at 10:10 am to DawgFARKer
We have issues. We can debate who is to blame for it, but we can't debate the fact our players get into trouble more than other SEC schools.
It's inexcusable.
It's inexcusable.
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