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re: UGA Dynasty?

Posted on 1/24/24 at 1:12 pm to
Posted by MacMan10
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 1/24/24 at 1:12 pm to
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So Bama Dynasty ended in 17, right?


????
From 2009 to 2020
Alabama won half the NC’s
Alabama won over half the SECC’s
And had I higher win percentage than 0.850

These are the dynasty years imo
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
60675 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 1:15 pm to
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They have won exactly 1 SEC Championship in 6 years.

A dynasty has more to do with winning (ETA to add: Conference)titles, imo. I mean do we take away 2011 and 2017 because Alabama didn't even play for the SECC? Do we take those years out of consideration for Alabama's dynasty, or are they are part of the dynasty because they won titles those two years?

ETA
If we want to consider only years in which a conference title is won, then Michigan might be in the middle of a dynasty.
This post was edited on 1/24/24 at 2:30 pm
Posted by MacMan10
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2020
2179 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 1:17 pm to
If you can’t dominate your own conference how can you call yourself a dynasty?

From 2009 to 2020 Alabama won 7 out of 12 conference championships.

This is what a dynasty looks like.
This post was edited on 1/24/24 at 1:21 pm
Posted by atlanta917
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 1/24/24 at 1:22 pm to
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If you can’t dominate your own conference how can you call yourself a dynasty?

If UGA has 2 losses in the last 3 years, how have they not been dominant in conference play?
Posted by MacMan10
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2020
2179 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 1:23 pm to
2nd best. 0-3 vs the big dog in the title game.
Posted by atlanta917
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2017
6053 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 1:25 pm to
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2nd best. 0-3 vs the big dog in the title game.

I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt. go back and read the question again.
Posted by theRealJesseD
Member since Nov 2021
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Posted on 1/24/24 at 1:25 pm to
Gumps sure do seem triggered by the thought
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
88706 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 1:29 pm to
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From 2009 to 2020
Alabama won half the NC’s


And from 2021-present UGA has won 66% of the NCs.

We are not what I'd call a dynasty, but people acting like it's preposterous to even be discussing are equally off base, IMO.
Posted by MacMan10
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2020
2179 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 1:30 pm to
Minimum of 3 NC’s required for a dynasty. See orginal post.

Georgia needs another title in the next three years and win 2 out of 3 conference titles.
This post was edited on 1/24/24 at 1:33 pm
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
24856 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 1:35 pm to
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Minimum of 3 NC’s required for a dynasty. See orginal post. Georgia needs another title in the next three years and win 2 out of 3 conference titles.


Pretty sure if UGA won the next 3 (or even 2) NCs and zero conference titles we’d be considered a dynasty.
Posted by MacMan10
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2020
2179 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 1:37 pm to
Are yall already giving up on winning the conference?
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
24856 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 1:41 pm to
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Are yall already giving up on winning the conference?


No just saying the original post seems silly.

For instance you include 17-20 as part of your dynasty, but during that period you didn’t win more than half the conference titles or more than half the NCs.

I’m saying we win an NC (or two) in the next year or 3 and it’s a dynasty, the conference championship isn’t really a consideration…Bama fans opinions not withstanding.
Posted by MacMan10
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2020
2179 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 1:43 pm to
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For instance you include 17-20 as part of your dynasty, but during that period you didn’t win more than half the conference titles or more than half the NCs.


Wouldn’t have been a dynasty if you don’t include the years we won 4 out of 7
Posted by one and all
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 1/24/24 at 1:58 pm to
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UGA Dynasty?





Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
7341 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 2:10 pm to
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If you can’t dominate your own conference how can you call yourself a dynasty?

From 2009 to 2020 Alabama won 7 out of 12 conference championships.

This is what a dynasty looks like.


Conference titles have been meaning less since teams like Alabama and UGA have won national titles without conference titles.

They'll mean extremely little going forward as more than half the playoff field won't be teams that won their conference.

Conference titles don't mean what they used to, and they're about to mean almost nothing. It's all about the national title.

Alabama won 6 national titles between 2009 and 2020. That's what marks them as a dynasty. The conference titles really don't factor in much.

If UGA wins a national title in the next year or two, they enter dynasty status. Winning 3 more conference titles won't do it. They don't matter.
Posted by MacMan10
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2020
2179 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 2:19 pm to
Getting consistently beaten by the best team in your conference isn't nothing.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
60675 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 2:22 pm to
quote:

If you can’t dominate your own conference how can you call yourself a dynasty?



So we do ignore 2017 and 2011 for Alabama? Is that what we are saying? I mean, maybe Alabama was never a dynasty.

quote:

This is what a dynasty looks like.
So Michigan and Ohio State have ongoing dynasties since they dominated their conference?

In that case I will take a National Dynasty over a conference dynasty. So, what are your criteria for a National Dynasty?

Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
60675 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 2:24 pm to
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Getting consistently beaten by the best team in your conference isn't nothing.




It is if you win a National Championship. I mean, you don't think a team can have a bad game? MOST people would not say that Alabama had the better team in 2023.
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
7341 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 2:26 pm to
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This post was edited on 1/24/24 at 2:27 pm
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
7341 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 2:26 pm to
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Getting consistently beaten by the best team in your conference isn't nothing.


If you go on to win the national title, it's absolutely nothing. Completely unimportant.

Conference titles used to matter because way back when you had to win the conference to be in the national title hunt.

Them Bama won in 2012 despite not winning their division, let alone the conference.

They did the same in 2017.

Then UGA won the national title while losing the SECCG in 2021.

Conference championships have been meaning less and less because of results like that.

Now with the 12 team playoff, they won't matter much at all. Only the winning of national titles will matter. UGA would have been in a 12 team playoff every year from 2017 on. Not winning the SEC often wouldn't have mattered at all if they won another national championship or two.

Finish with 2 losses or less, make the playoff, win the championship. That's what will matter. SECCG? It just makes winning the national title a bit easier due to getting a bye. Otherwise it's of minimal importance.
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