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re: UGA demanding retraction from AJC....

Posted on 7/11/23 at 8:35 pm to
Posted by koreandawg
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Posted on 7/11/23 at 8:35 pm to
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It's telling that the letter does not threaten litigation if the AJC doesn't retract the article. Perhaps there are more details/skeletons UGA would not want to come out in discovery.


LMAO. Do you think that the AJC and Judd would hold back now if they had a lot of real dirt on UGA?
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
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Posted on 7/11/23 at 8:35 pm to
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This is not even close to jsut "the local paper is reporting bad stuff abotu us and we don't like it", and is more so "this paper is blatantly making things up or intentionally misrepresenting facts to conjure up a story where one doesn't really exist


That’s pretty much all mainstream propaganda, I mean media, now.
Posted by RealDawg
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Posted on 7/11/23 at 8:36 pm to
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Double digit criminal complaints that ALL go away after UGA got involved…. Good luck with that I guess.


What are they? Reporter doesn’t talk about them just tossed that out there and runs off. Gives three examples, none of which match his narrative. Missing 8 or actual 11 that do.

So, reporter is 0-11 on his claims.

UGA asks which 11 he is referring to and he says his dog ate his homework.
Posted by koreandawg
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Posted on 7/11/23 at 8:41 pm to
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Double digit criminal complaints that ALL go away after UGA got involved…. Good luck with that I guess.


What are they? Reporter doesn’t talk about them just tossed that out there and runs off. Gives three examples, none of which match his narrative. Missing 8 or actual 11 that do.

So, reporter is 0-11 on his claims.

UGA asks which 11 he is referring to and he says his dog ate his homework.



You can't fix stupid. As you say, we've got 0 actual UGA players who are accused of violence by a female that were allowed to stay on the team. And Judd not only doesn't give the full list of 11, but says these three he wrote about were the most egregious.

One was kicked off as soon as UGA was made aware of the investigation.
Another was kicked off as as a charge was filed. BTW, it wasn't a violent act but recording sexual activity without the woman knowing it.

And the third was a high school recruit (not a football player at the time) and no charges were ever brought against him. And his accuser waffled when she talked to police about the incident.
This post was edited on 7/11/23 at 8:54 pm
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 7/11/23 at 8:41 pm to
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we've got 0 actual UGA players who are accused of violence by a female that were allowed to stay on the team.

Is rape not violence?
Posted by koreandawg
South Korea
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Posted on 7/11/23 at 8:42 pm to
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Is rape not violence?


What UGA player was accused of rape and stayed on the team?
This post was edited on 7/11/23 at 8:43 pm
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 7/11/23 at 8:43 pm to
Adam Andersen wasn't kicked off the team.
For the record, I'm no fan of the AJC. I know what kind of a BS rag they are.
Posted by koreandawg
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Posted on 7/11/23 at 8:49 pm to
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Adam Andersen wasn't kicked off the team.
For the record, I'm no fan of the AJC. I know what kind of a BS rag they are.


What? He was suspended and hasn't played a game since. If you are talking about the WLOCP, no one even knew he was under investigation then. No one knew until the week after the game. He wasn't at practice on Monday after that game and it was not reported at least in print until Thursday.

The ON3 guys said when he read the piece he knew he got that wrong because no one knew about Anderson at all until after the game. That includes UGA. Police were investigating it while Anderson and the team was in Jax.

This tells me you did not read the retraction letter because it's clearly addressed in there.
This post was edited on 7/11/23 at 8:51 pm
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
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Posted on 7/11/23 at 8:52 pm to
Huh? Suspended =/= kicked off the team, especially since they still hooked him up for pro day.
Posted by koreandawg
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Posted on 7/11/23 at 8:55 pm to
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Huh? Suspended =/= kicked off the team, especially since they still hooked him up for pro day.


He didn't play again. I would hope that they wouldn't say he was kicked off until they knew for sure the woman wasn't gonna recant a few days later as happens sometime. He was suspended from all team activities. I mean, you are really splitting hairs here brother.
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 7/11/23 at 8:57 pm to
Okay, but he still wasn't kicked off the team. JJ Holloman wasn't even charged and he got booted.
Are you saying that we should've kept Jalen Kitna until he had his day in court?
This post was edited on 7/11/23 at 8:58 pm
Posted by koreandawg
South Korea
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Posted on 7/11/23 at 9:00 pm to
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Are you saying that we should've kept Jalen Kitna until he had his day in court?


I'm saying if you had suspended him from all football activities and he didn't play another down of football for you and didn't participate in practice, I wouldn't be giving you a hard time over him. Geeze man. You are something else.
This post was edited on 7/11/23 at 9:01 pm
Posted by RealDawg
Dawgville
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 7/11/23 at 9:00 pm to
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Huh? Suspended =/= kicked off the team, especially since they still hooked him up for pro day.


Wrong again. He did a private Pro Day off campus while out on bond. Also, innocent until proven guilty.
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 7/11/23 at 9:00 pm to
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Also, innocent until proven guilty.

So then you're saying Jalen Kitna shouldn't have been kicked off the team before he had his day in court or pled, right?
Posted by NotImber
Member since Jun 2023
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Posted on 7/11/23 at 9:01 pm to
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LMAO. Do you think that the AJC and Judd would hold back now if they had a lot of real dirt on UGA?




No. But there's this thing called discovery if you get into litigation. AJC and Judd's methods of discovery are limited as things stand now.
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
15598 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 9:01 pm to
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I'm saying if you had suspended him from all football activities and he didn't play another down of football for you and didn't participate in practice, I wouldn't be giving you a hard time over him. Geeze man. You are something else.

I'm just making a factual correction. Adam Andersen wasn't kicked off the team despite being accused of rape (which his trial is still pending for).
Posted by koreandawg
South Korea
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 7/11/23 at 9:04 pm to
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No. But there's this thing called discovery if you get into litigation. AJC and Judd's methods of discovery are limited as things stand now.


It's pretty hard to win against newspapers in court. And you would spend a lot of money trying to do that.

This was more to get out there how terrible his reporting was and show he isn't reporting but creating narratives.
Posted by koreandawg
South Korea
Member since Sep 2015
13376 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 9:07 pm to
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I'm just making a factual correction. Adam Andersen wasn't kicked off the team despite being accused of rape (which his trial is still pending for).


I guess factually, David Pollack wasn't fired from ESPN, but laid off. We're talking semantics here.

I just checked and this was what was reported on Kitna: Kitna is indefinitely suspended from the Gators football team after being arrested on child pornography charges.

This is exactly what UGA did to Andersen. So maybe it's not semantics. Maybe you just don't know what the hell you're talking about.
This post was edited on 7/11/23 at 9:09 pm
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 7/11/23 at 9:07 pm to
Sure about that?

LINK
Posted by RealDawg
Dawgville
Member since Nov 2012
11271 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 9:08 pm to
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I'm just making a factual correction. Adam Andersen wasn't kicked off the team despite being accused of rape (which his trial is still pending for).


Your factual correction said UGA hooked him up with a pro day..which did not happen.

Indefinitely suspended…what more should happen to a person who isn’t guilty of a crime at this point?

Plus..this was two years ago now. He hasn’t been on the team or college for a while.
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