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re: UGA as a CFP 4-seed
Posted on 11/5/25 at 12:25 pm to MacMan10
Posted on 11/5/25 at 12:25 pm to MacMan10
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In your scenario you are 5th.
Does Georgia really want to miss the SECCG this bad? You guys seem giddy about 3rd place.
It definitely could be an advantage. For instance....would you prefer to win the National Championship, or win the SECC? Missing the SECCG could keep a key player or two from getting injured. When you add that it could possibly get you a first round bye AND remove any injury possibility AND give your injured players extra weeks to heal up....
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Posted on 11/5/25 at 12:28 pm to DawgsLife
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Just going by eye test, I would say ovverall Alabama has looked better. Georgia's defense just hasn't looked good, yet we manage to pull out wins. But sooner or later that kind of winning tends to catch up to teams.
We're in the same boat. Yes, we've won but we can't run the ball to save our lifes and our offensive line can be very inconsistent in pass blocking. Yes we're winning but it's having to be "scrappy", "dig deep and come up with a big play or three" type of wins. You can only win so many that way then it gets you.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 12:30 pm to NytroBud
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You'll lose to both Missouri and Texas.
A&M is not going to lose to Missouri and Texas.
Don't over react just because somebody disagrees with you.
A&M just might go undefeated. Texas will be the tricky game because it is a rivalry game. And, only because it is a rivalry game.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 12:33 pm to GeauxBurrow312
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The committee goes out of its way to not penalize CCG losers because they don’t want conferences to get rid of the CCG
This is not true at all. The penalized both Texas and Penn State last year for losing their CCG.
Both lost 1st round byes because they lost.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 12:38 pm to NWLA_Bama
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We're in the same boat. Yes, we've won but we can't run the ball to save our lifes and our offensive line can be very inconsistent in pass blocking. Yes we're winning but it's having to be "scrappy", "dig deep and come up with a big play or three" type of wins. You can only win so many that way then it gets you.
I preferred the four team playoff thing, but this year does seem to have a lot of nteresting scenarios floating around. That said, typically things tend to work themselves out and become clearer. Which scares me because we still have Texas and GT left on the schedule.
Alabama still has Auburn, and even though Auburn has lost a lot of games and at times looks pretty bad...they are a huge rival with Alabama, and typically plays Alabama tough. Then you also have Oklahoma and LSU. Alabama should take LSU, but the wildcard in this thing is Oklahoma. They don't have an easy path, but if they beat Alabama, they should be favored to beat LSU and Missouri.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 12:39 pm to DawgsLife
So yes.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 12:56 pm to DawgsLife
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This is not true at all. The penalized both Texas and Penn State last year for losing their CCG. Both lost 1st round byes because they lost
Those team went on to win two playoff games before they lost in the semis. How did those teams with bye weeks do?
Posted on 11/5/25 at 1:43 pm to DawgsLife
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Not really. Teams have dropped in the rankings after conference championship games every year. Penn State moved from #3 to #4 and Texas moved from #2 to #3 after the conference championship game last year.
That is because the format was different. The 1-4 seeds were conference winners and/or the highest G5 (Oregon, Georgia, ASU and then BSU).
This year seeds 1-4 don't depend conference championships, the conference champions are just guaranteed a spot in the playoffs.
Two completely different seeding systems from last year to this year, but if the same logic stands they wont punish a team for playing an extra game. If Both Bama and A&M are ranked ahead of Georgia prior to the CCG, they both will finish seeded higher.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 2:04 pm to Nasty_Canasta
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Those team went on to win two playoff games before they lost in the semis. How did those teams with bye weeks do?
It doesn't matter what the teams did. They were penalized by having their first round byes taken from them when they lost their Conference Championship games. I mean, the arguemnt was that teams would not be penalized if they lost a conference championship game. They got a lower seed, so they were definitely penalized. They were alos ranked lower (which is why they got the lower seed) If Alabama is ranked #4 going into the SECCG, and they lose they PROBABLY will drop in the rankings, costing them a first round bye.Posted on 11/5/25 at 2:06 pm to DawgsLife
It matters a lot in the grand scheme of things. The penalizing certainly didn’t impact the outcomes
Posted on 11/5/25 at 2:06 pm to DawgsLife
That is incorrect
“The penalized both Texas and Penn State last year for losing their CCG.
Both lost 1st round byes because they lost”
The top 4 ranked champs got byes last year. That was out of the committees hands. They changed it for this year
“The penalized both Texas and Penn State last year for losing their CCG.
Both lost 1st round byes because they lost”
The top 4 ranked champs got byes last year. That was out of the committees hands. They changed it for this year
This post was edited on 11/5/25 at 2:07 pm
Posted on 11/5/25 at 2:09 pm to TexasOnTop
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That is because the format was different. The 1-4 seeds were conference winners and/or the highest G5 (Oregon, Georgia, ASU and then BSU).
But my point was that they became ranked lower. Weren't they? had they won their conference championship games they would not have dropped and the teams that beat them would have lost their rankings and first round byes.
Let's say the rankings before the Conference Championship games remain as they are right now:
1. Ohio State
2. Indiana
3. Texas A&M
4. Alabama
Do you honestly believe that if Ohio State and Texas A&M win their games, that the rankings will remain the same? If not,then then the losers of the games will have been penalized.
To say teams will not be penalized, then the rankings would have to stay exactly the same. Texas A&M would not be able to move past Indiana, and Alabama, though losing a second game would have to remain ranked #4,
This post was edited on 11/5/25 at 2:12 pm
Posted on 11/5/25 at 2:13 pm to DawgsLife
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But my point was that they became ranked lower. Weren't they? had they won their conference championship games they would not have dropped and the teams that beat them would have lost their rankings and first round byes.
Let's say the rankings before the Conference Championship games remain as they are right now:
1. Ohio State
2. Indiana
3. Texas A&M
4. Alabama
Do you honestly believe that if Ohio State and Texas A&M win their games, that the rankings will remain the same? If not,then then the losers of the games will have been penalized.
They might move Indiana down to 3 and A&M up to 2 in that situation. That still doesn't change the initial argument the Georgia would not get a first round bye if they aren't competing in a CCG.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 2:14 pm to GeauxBurrow312
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That is incorrect
“The penalized both Texas and Penn State last year for losing their CCG.
Both lost 1st round byes because they lost”
The top 4 ranked champs got byes last year. That was out of the committees hands. They changed it for this year
Where were those teams ranked before their conference championship games? Where were they ranked after the games? The losers dropped in rankings, did they not? The committee ranked the teams...so they did have a choice after the conference championship games. The final rankings/seeds for the playoffs came after the conference championship games.
This post was edited on 11/5/25 at 2:15 pm
Posted on 11/5/25 at 2:17 pm to TexasOnTop
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They might move Indiana down to 3 and A&M up to 2 in that situation. That still doesn't change the initial argument the Georgia would not get a first round bye if they aren't competing in a CCG.
So you think they will penalize Indiana and not Alabama? If i were Indiana I would scream bloody murder.
And if they do move A&M over Indiana, then they would be penalizing Indiana because of their conference championship game, because the seeding would be hypothetically more difficult.
ETA
I am not arguing that Georgia would get a bye or even should get a bye. But it is possible. I guess it is possible that they could jump someone past Georgia and move Alabama down one spot...but that would be penalizing teams for participating in the conference championship games, would it not?
ETAA
Ole Miss is at #6. Surely you don't think they would jump Ole Miss over Georgia?
This post was edited on 11/5/25 at 2:27 pm
Posted on 11/5/25 at 2:27 pm to DawgsLife
Texas and Penn St got the two easiest paths. They did not get penalized in anyway
The byes were earmarked for conference champions; which they were not
Instead they got to play shitty Clemson and SMU teams at home
The byes were earmarked for conference champions; which they were not
Instead they got to play shitty Clemson and SMU teams at home
Posted on 11/5/25 at 2:29 pm to DawgsLife
quote:I said they might, not that they will.
So you think they will penalize Indiana and not Alabama? If i were Indiana I would scream bloody murder.
Looking at the final rankings from last year after CCG's the teams that dropped either didn't play in a CCG (ND dropped from 4 to 5 due to Georgia's win that pushed them above Texas and Penn State). The one team that did not play in a CCG and got bumped up was Indiana. Lookiong at how the final rankings shook out, it looks to me as a team is more at risk of being hurt in the final rankings had they not played in a CCG.
So yes it is possible to a CCG to "hurt", but looking at how last years rankings would project in todays field and seeding, the one team that would have had a bye prior to CCG was ND and due to them not playing in one they got hurt.
Last years week by week rankings
Posted on 11/5/25 at 2:40 pm to GeauxBurrow312
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Texas and Penn St got the two easiest paths. They did not get penalized in anyway
They were dropped in the rankings. In theory they should have had a tougher road through the playoffs. Surely you aren't going to argue that the intent of the playoffs was to make the highest ranked teams have a tougher road through the playoffs and the lower ranked teams have an easier path!?!?
The fact that they got an easier path was a quirk of the system. The very reason they changed the way the playoffs are done this year.
Unless you guys are now going to argue that falling in rankings is a good thing?
Posted on 11/5/25 at 2:44 pm to DawgsLife
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They were dropped in the rankings
The reason Boise st and Arizona st jumped them is solely because the rules last year were top 4 ranked conference champs got a bye
Texas and PSU, both losers, didnt earn a bye under that format, they stayed ahead of the teams they were ahead of before taking another L. This year they changed that formatting to just straight seeding
This post was edited on 11/5/25 at 3:04 pm
Posted on 11/5/25 at 2:49 pm to TexasOnTop
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(ND dropped from 4 to 5 due to Georgia's win that pushed them above Texas and Penn State).
ND dropped because they did not play in a CCG at all.
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it looks to me as a team is more at risk of being hurt in the final rankings had they not played in a CCG.
That also was a quirk of the awful system they used last year of locking in byes to conference champions. Fact is,,,someone said the committee proved last year that if you played in the conference championship game you would not be penalized. I have already proven that you can and probably will be penalized....especially if the rankings go unchanged going into CCG weekend. I mean....is it possible they leave Alabama unchanged even with a loss? (Assuming the lose to A&M) It's possible, but I would be surprised. I guess time will tell.
Y'all might be right and they might let Alabama and Indiana stay ranked right where they are right now even with a loss...but I just can't fathom that.
I mean, it may have happened...but has any team ever not been ranked lower after a loss, much less two teams not being ranked lower?
(It's probably happened before, but it would probably be rare, and happened only if several teams below them lost, too.)
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