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re: UF/Utah line continues to drift in UFs favor. From Utah -10 to Utah -4.5
Posted on 8/22/23 at 10:16 am to joshnorris14
Posted on 8/22/23 at 10:16 am to joshnorris14
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quote: And they would still play Georgia and still get their heads tipped off
Obviously. Nobody is confusing Florida as a team that is better than Georgia.
We are talking about betting lines between Utah/Florida, and he chimes in that UGA would kick both teams’ asses. Are UGA fans like this in real life?
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Posted on 8/22/23 at 10:24 am to WG_Dawg
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Bro Florida had a losing record with 7 losses last year with a top 10 draft pick at QB. You think they're going to improve replacing him with some scrub from the big 10?
Mertz will have a better year statistically than Richardson did last year and be much more consistent. IMO, he will not personally cost the Gators 2 games like his predecessor did.
If the defense is improved which every indication is coming out of camp. This is an 8-win team even with the toughest schedule in the nation.
Posted on 8/22/23 at 10:27 am to Oilfieldbiology
Josh Norris posted that if UF had UGAs schedule they would be a top 25 team. I was responding to him. Not to betting lines. Maybe you should try reading before making stupid posts. And what’s it to you anyway? Guess you are still smarting from that beat down UGA gave y’all
Posted on 8/22/23 at 10:30 am to UFMatt
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If the defense is improved which every indication is coming out of camp. This is an 8-win team even with the toughest schedule in the nation.
We'll see relatively quickly, but I disagree with your thoughts on UF at this point. I see UF as a 5-win team. If they beat Utah I might feel like I'm wrong, but I think your QB play will be a disaster, your defense will be average and all you'll have is a running game.
Posted on 8/22/23 at 10:34 am to DawginSC
Bluechip ranking for 2023
The list this year consists of, in order, Alabama, Ohio State, Georgia, Texas A&M, Clemson, LSU, Texas, Oklahoma, Oregon, Notre, Dame, Florida, Miami, Penn State, Michigan, USC and Auburn.
Don't believe that UF doesn't have any talent. It has been wasted by poor coaching and there has been a lack of playmakers, but there is still talent on the roster. Where is Utah? Not in the top 25.
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The list this year consists of, in order, Alabama, Ohio State, Georgia, Texas A&M, Clemson, LSU, Texas, Oklahoma, Oregon, Notre, Dame, Florida, Miami, Penn State, Michigan, USC and Auburn.
Don't believe that UF doesn't have any talent. It has been wasted by poor coaching and there has been a lack of playmakers, but there is still talent on the roster. Where is Utah? Not in the top 25.
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This post was edited on 8/22/23 at 10:37 am
Posted on 8/22/23 at 10:35 am to UFMatt
Mertz is not a improvement 
Posted on 8/22/23 at 10:39 am to CarolinaGamecock99
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Mertz is not a improvement
Yet to be determined! His upside isn't as high, and his downside isn't as low as AR, but at least the coach can call a play and have a good idea of what the QB will do.
Posted on 8/22/23 at 10:56 am to Oilfieldbiology
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We are talking about betting lines between Utah/Florida, and he chimes in that UGA would kick both teams’ asses. Are UGA fans like this in real life?
Certainly the bandwagon fans like him.
Posted on 8/22/23 at 11:06 am to UFMatt
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Don't believe that UF doesn't have any talent. It has been wasted by poor coaching and there has been a lack of playmakers, but there is still talent on the roster. Where is Utah? Not in the top 25.
Sorry, I do believe UF doesn't have talent.
I feel the same about Auburn (who's also on that list). UF and Auburn have had a lot of misses.
This post was edited on 8/22/23 at 11:07 am
Posted on 8/22/23 at 11:07 am to DawginSC
Utah has infinitely better coaching than UF. Infinitely
Posted on 8/22/23 at 11:14 am to UFMatt
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and his downside isn't as low as AR,
Might not want to look at his stats
Posted on 8/22/23 at 11:33 am to DawginSC
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I feel the same about Auburn (who's also on that list). UF and Auburn have had a lot of misses.
72% of the roster are people Napier has brought in since January of 2022. You are saying they are misses after his first season at the helm?
Posted on 8/22/23 at 1:06 pm to joshnorris14
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72% of the roster are people Napier has brought in since January of 2022. You are saying they are misses after his first season at the helm?
I'm saying his upper class "talent" is loaded with misses, his 2022 class had a grand total of 6 4-stars and his 2023 class are true freshmen. Those aren't going to be a huge factor in what UF is this year. Next year and the year after? Yes. But not this season.
I see this season as a low point for UF. Napier is relying on ULL transfers, some portal guys like your QB, busts from Mullen (as they hits are already gone), mostly 3 star sophomores/RS freshman and some true freshmen to have success this year.
It's very unlikely to work.
Posted on 8/22/23 at 1:10 pm to DawginSC
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I'm saying his upper class "talent" is loaded with misses
His upper class talent, in many cases, are transfers. Hence how he's been able to make 3/4s of the roster his in a year and a half.
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and his 2023 class are true freshmen. Those aren't going to be a huge factor in what UF is this year.
We have a lot of impact true freshman. Especially at WR, DE, and DB. They are going to play a lot. Usually that's not great, but the WRs we have are going to impact the team positively
This post was edited on 8/22/23 at 1:12 pm
Posted on 8/22/23 at 1:45 pm to joshnorris14
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His upper class talent, in many cases, are transfers. Hence how he's been able to make 3/4s of the roster his in a year and a half.
Yes. And they aren't particularly talented. They're a lot of misses from other schools looking for a second chance. Guys like Jalen Kimber who left after failing at UGA, Taradja Mitchell who failed at OSU, Damieon George who failed at Alabama or Graham Mertz who failed at Wisconsin.
A lot of these guys are 4-stars on paper. But they aren't actually 4-stars because they've already shown they were misses. This is the same mindset as thinking Brenton Cox or Justin Shorter were actually 5-star talents. They were 5-star misses that transferred to UF after washing out.
That's not a positive.
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We have a lot of impact true freshman. Especially at WR, DE, and DB. They are going to play a lot. Usually that's not great, but the WRs we have are going to impact the team positively
You are right in saying it's not great. If you are counting on true freshmen, you're going to be disappointed more often or not. Yes, occasionally you get a Brock Bowers or Malaki Starks that can step in and play at a SEC level right away. But that's the exception, not the rule. Most of the time even the better true freshmen don't really contribute until the last 4-5 games of the season.
Posted on 8/22/23 at 2:12 pm to DawginSC
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Guys like Jalen Kimber who left after failing at UGA, Taradja Mitchell who failed at OSU, Damieon George who failed at Alabama or Graham Mertz who failed at Wisconsin.
Do you think Joe Burrow failed at Ohio State? Any other transfer who has exploded after leaving their original school?
Posted on 8/22/23 at 4:46 pm to joshnorris14
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Do you think Joe Burrow failed at Ohio State? Any other transfer who has exploded after leaving their original school?
It’s different with qbs, especially at powerhouses like OSU
This post was edited on 8/22/23 at 4:53 pm
Posted on 8/22/23 at 6:47 pm to djsdawg
Pretty crazy that Billy fans (let's be real half of these clowns are ULL fans) are basically saying that Mertz will be better then a dude who is about to start in the NFL.
You still need to realize that the reason AR looked like shite last year is that Billy has the worst offensive system in the SEC. Even Levi Lewis got worse each year despite him being a 4 year starter in the Sun Belt.
If he wants to win he'll give up the OC duties.
You still need to realize that the reason AR looked like shite last year is that Billy has the worst offensive system in the SEC. Even Levi Lewis got worse each year despite him being a 4 year starter in the Sun Belt.
If he wants to win he'll give up the OC duties.
This post was edited on 8/22/23 at 6:48 pm
Posted on 8/22/23 at 6:51 pm to Enzos Tiny Pito
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basically saying that Mertz will be better then a dude who is about to start in the NFL.
Did you watch Anthony Richardson last year?
And is it surprising to you when Florida fans heard all fall camp about how inaccurate and inconsistent Anthony Richardson was (which became evident all season) vs us hearing how in command, accurate, and consistent Mertz has been?
Posted on 8/22/23 at 6:51 pm to djsdawg
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Might not want to look at his stats
Better QB rating, more touchdowns, better TD:INT ratio? Have you looked at the stats?
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