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Two things to give considerable thought to regarding Sam and Arkansas
Posted on 9/26/21 at 6:04 pm
Posted on 9/26/21 at 6:04 pm
1. Since everything begins with the offensive line (protection, run game, time of possession, thus a fresher defense), it’s a very special thing to have the number one offensive line man in the nation as your head coach.
2. And….Sam is never leaving. Sam is from Grove, Oklahoma, one county over from the University of Arkansas. The normal rules about what programs might come after him do not apply. Sam is home.
Probably my biggest peeve is the mentality that an "offensive guru" is going to come in and save a program. More likely they are going to come in an burn down your damn program. Malzahn had that mentality and got lightning in a bottle in Cam and then the two miracles v Georgia and Kick6. Chaggy Morris was the worst example of a pompous dipshit waltzing in acting like he's a "offensive guru" savior and then embarrassing himself for the rest of his life.
I certainly differentiate being offensive coordinator background versus the media-fueled "offensive guru" moniker
SEC head coaches break down like this:
Saban - former defensive coordinator
Kirby - def coor
Mullen - offensive coordinator
Pittboss - offensive line coach
Ed - defensive line coach
Lane - offensive coordinator
Vandy coach - defensive coordinator
Beamer - special teams coordinator
Stoops - defensive coordinator
Leach - certified "offensive guru" I guess, and yet I do like him because of his personality. He certainly could be the exception to the rule and rival Jackie Sherril's won/loss record at State.
Harsin - offensive coordinator
Heupel - offensive coordinator
Elle Drinkwuss - offensive coordinator
Dumb butt Jimbo - offensive coordinator
2. And….Sam is never leaving. Sam is from Grove, Oklahoma, one county over from the University of Arkansas. The normal rules about what programs might come after him do not apply. Sam is home.
Probably my biggest peeve is the mentality that an "offensive guru" is going to come in and save a program. More likely they are going to come in an burn down your damn program. Malzahn had that mentality and got lightning in a bottle in Cam and then the two miracles v Georgia and Kick6. Chaggy Morris was the worst example of a pompous dipshit waltzing in acting like he's a "offensive guru" savior and then embarrassing himself for the rest of his life.
I certainly differentiate being offensive coordinator background versus the media-fueled "offensive guru" moniker
SEC head coaches break down like this:
Saban - former defensive coordinator
Kirby - def coor
Mullen - offensive coordinator
Pittboss - offensive line coach
Ed - defensive line coach
Lane - offensive coordinator
Vandy coach - defensive coordinator
Beamer - special teams coordinator
Stoops - defensive coordinator
Leach - certified "offensive guru" I guess, and yet I do like him because of his personality. He certainly could be the exception to the rule and rival Jackie Sherril's won/loss record at State.
Harsin - offensive coordinator
Heupel - offensive coordinator
Elle Drinkwuss - offensive coordinator
Dumb butt Jimbo - offensive coordinator
This post was edited on 9/26/21 at 6:16 pm
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Posted on 9/26/21 at 6:08 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
The one problem Sam might have is where Arkansas is geographically. Your state isn’t known for producing talent and you’re surrounded by a lot of schools that’ll regularly compete and win for talent. Having said that, Sam is a great coach and made a great staff. Y’all should be happy 
Posted on 9/26/21 at 6:09 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
I like Titboss but lets not get carried away.
Arkansas is having great success because Pittman has got the players to buy in and has surrounded himself with elite position coaches and coordinators.
This isn't happening simply because Pittman is a great offensive line coach.
Arkansas is having great success because Pittman has got the players to buy in and has surrounded himself with elite position coaches and coordinators.
This isn't happening simply because Pittman is a great offensive line coach.
Posted on 9/26/21 at 6:10 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
Sam coaches talent up and his players play hard for him. His ego doesn’t drive him to call plays when he shouldn’t and delegates accordingly. That’s valuable
Posted on 9/26/21 at 6:12 pm to geauxnavybeatbama
Do you not hear the sound of all those Texas high school kids purchasing Arkansas Razorback gear right now?
And Tulsa is an hour and a half away
And we are down in Georgia to stay, as long as Sam is around.
Not to mention KC three hours away
And Tulsa is an hour and a half away
And we are down in Georgia to stay, as long as Sam is around.
Not to mention KC three hours away
Posted on 9/26/21 at 6:15 pm to SidewalkTiger
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This isn't happening simply because Pittman is a great offensive line coach.
Who said that was the only reason he does things?
Dude, his approach to the game is based on being a line coach. So hiring Briles for instance, Kendall is crafty and good, but he's not some "look at me" whore that many offensive coordinators are. That's part of the reason Sam likes him.
Posted on 9/26/21 at 6:15 pm to geauxnavybeatbama
Texas recruits belong to us.
SEC fricked.
SEC fricked.
Posted on 9/26/21 at 6:22 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
Pittman, O, Cristobal, dabo are the only big time CEO coaches.
When Briles and Odom leave it will be interesting who Pittman hires. That's the issue with a CEO type coach you are going to get more than 3/5 yrs from coordinators. Dabo is the only exception because Venables never wants to leave.
When Briles and Odom leave it will be interesting who Pittman hires. That's the issue with a CEO type coach you are going to get more than 3/5 yrs from coordinators. Dabo is the only exception because Venables never wants to leave.
Posted on 9/26/21 at 6:25 pm to Magician2
Pittman was able to get these coordinators because coaches respect him. When they take head coaching jobs he will will replace them with solid coordinators on the cusp of a head coaching gig.
Those guys leaving for a HC gig is a positive, not a negative.
Those guys leaving for a HC gig is a positive, not a negative.
Posted on 9/26/21 at 6:26 pm to Magician2
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Pittman, O, Cristobal, dabo are the only big time CEO coaches.
When Briles and Odom leave it will be interesting who Pittman hires. That's the issue with a CEO type coach you are going to get more than 3/5 yrs from coordinators. Dabo is the only exception because Venables never wants to leave.
Yeah, this was my point.
It's all based on how good the hires are, in the case of O, it isn't going well.
Posted on 9/26/21 at 6:31 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Yeah, this was my point.
It's all based on how good the hires are, in the case of O, it isn't going well.
in the case of O, O is a chest beating chimpanzee who is incapable of gaining and keeping respect of anyone, much less his top staff
Bret Bielema was similar actually. Pittboss left Arkansas once already because Bielema was a drunken narcissist
Posted on 9/26/21 at 6:41 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
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in the case of O, O is a chest beating chimpanzee who is incapable of gaining and keeping respect of anyone, much less his top staff
Based on what exactly?
Posted on 9/26/21 at 7:00 pm to SidewalkTiger
Um id say based on not keeping and hiring good staff the past two years
Posted on 9/26/21 at 7:14 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Based on what exactly?
It appeared that even his old old friend Bill Johnson was telling him to shut the frick up on his sideline tirade last year
Bill wasn't talking to the air. And he was only looking at one guy.
Posted on 9/26/21 at 7:24 pm to geauxnavybeatbama
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Um id say based on not keeping and hiring good staff the past two years
Bad hires has nothing to do with whether he's respected or not, he just made shitty hires.
Who did he not keep based on him not being respected?
Posted on 9/26/21 at 7:36 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Bad hires has nothing to do with whether he's respected or not, he just made shitty hires.
Bad hires has everything to do with whether he's respected or not
Good hires ain't coming
Good hires ain't boarding a sinking ship
Posted on 9/26/21 at 7:41 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
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Bad hires has everything to do with whether he's respected or not
Doesn't really make any sense to be honest.
There hasn't been a single instance that suggests O isn't respected in coaching circles.
A person can have all the respect in the world and still make a bad hire. Respect doesn't equal good hires.
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Good hires ain't coming
Good hires ain't boarding a sinking ship
No doubt. Orgeron has lost too much at LSU and is on the hot seat. No good candidate is jumping on that ship, respect or not.
Posted on 9/26/21 at 7:43 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Doesn't really make any sense to be honest.
love you man
Posted on 9/26/21 at 7:43 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
Posted on 9/26/21 at 7:49 pm to SidewalkTiger
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There hasn't been a single instance that suggests O isn't respected in coaching circles.
what?
in D1 football there are 1) certified bad boys and 2) middle of the road cheaters who make sure they come across like youth ministers or preachers
the preacher type category are the largest category and their opinions hold sway over piers and up and comers. They warn the shite out of friends and young coaches alike about this coach or that coach.
Not boarding a sinking ship is a thing dude. It's THE thing.
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