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re: Trent Dilfer talking about Cam's workout performance now on Sportcenter

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Posted by LosRadio
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 2/10/11 at 2:40 pm to
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Aaron Rodgers?


Not in Tedford's system...ever. His offenses don't ask the QB to run the foootball at all. Even as effective as Rodgers scrambling, he had 74 rushing attempts in 2004. Cam had 264 attempts this year. While I'm not a big fan of Tedford system QB's, you can at least say they have experience as drop back passers in a traditional offense.
Posted by LosRadio
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2010
45 posts
Posted on 2/10/11 at 2:43 pm to
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Sam Bradford says hi.


Not so much. Bradford had 482 passing attempts during his heisman season. I think we're having a bit of an issue recognizing a spread passing offense vs a spread running offense. Think Texas Tech vs. Oregon.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54838 posts
Posted on 2/10/11 at 2:45 pm to
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LosRadio
How many spread running offenses have there been? I think the sample size is too small for your theory to hold any water. Also, Cam is not the typical run first QB. He can make all of the NFL throws and has great arm strength and pretty good accuracy. Reading the D and decision making will be his downfall, if he has one.
This post was edited on 2/10/11 at 2:47 pm
Posted by DCTiger29
Washington, DC
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 2/10/11 at 2:45 pm to
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LosRadio


I mean the spread running attack has only been around for like 5 seasons. Not really a fair comparison.
Posted by DCTiger29
Washington, DC
Member since Jan 2011
325 posts
Posted on 2/10/11 at 2:46 pm to
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WDE24


+1. Great minds..
Posted by usc6158
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 2/10/11 at 2:47 pm to
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@BFeldmanESPN Random sighting among the watchers at Cam Newton's workout: Reggie Bush's younger brother


Posted by ALcapone
Member since Nov 2010
3828 posts
Posted on 2/10/11 at 2:50 pm to
Jason Campbell's accuracy > Cam's accuracy
Posted by TBama93k
Member since Nov 2010
8056 posts
Posted on 2/10/11 at 2:52 pm to
Cam is a well oiled machine, he cant be stopped
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54838 posts
Posted on 2/10/11 at 2:52 pm to
YEAR CMP ATT YDS CMP% YPA LNG TD INT SACK RAT
2004 188 270 2700 69.6 10.00 87 20 7 13 172.89
2010 185 280 2854 66.1 10.19 94 30 7 23 182.05
Posted by LosRadio
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2010
45 posts
Posted on 2/10/11 at 2:53 pm to
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Reading the D and decision making will be his downfall, if he has one.


I couldn't agree more. The problem is that even the spread passing game dumbs down the reads, not too mention the running attacks. While more guys are coming into the NFL with experience in the passing game than ever before, guys from traditional offenses look much more comfortable faster. Give me the guy from the vanilla I-formation than a guy who reads the end or throws the smoke screen every series.
Posted by toomersdrugs
Auburn, AL
Member since Feb 2010
4631 posts
Posted on 2/10/11 at 2:53 pm to
That's because Jason would just take the sack. Never took a chance if it wasn't wide open. Cam has some serious zip on the ball and can fit it in places most can't.
Posted by LosRadio
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2010
45 posts
Posted on 2/10/11 at 2:57 pm to
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Cam has some serious zip on the ball and can fit it in places most can't.


Get past arm strength. Kyle Boller has arm strength (did). Byron Leftwich has arm strength. Cam's feet, not running, but how he sets up will be what is stressed going forward.

HELL, Purple Drank has the best arm in the league.
This post was edited on 2/10/11 at 2:58 pm
Posted by toomersdrugs
Auburn, AL
Member since Feb 2010
4631 posts
Posted on 2/10/11 at 3:00 pm to
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HELL, Purple Drank has the best arm in the league


can throw it the farthest? yes

best? not a chance
Posted by Billy Mays
Member since Jan 2009
25793 posts
Posted on 2/10/11 at 3:04 pm to
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Britt is a stud, Nate washington is solid.

And Damien Williams is poised for a break out season.


Britt needs to stay healthy, but put up some huge games last year... but it would be nice to see a legit passing QB in TN
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 2/10/11 at 3:04 pm to
can throw it the farthest and with the most velocity...

yes best arm in the NFL and its not even close...


worst player and biggest waste of talent in the last decade of the NFL and its not even close
Posted by ALcapone
Member since Nov 2010
3828 posts
Posted on 2/10/11 at 3:12 pm to
Completion percentage does not equal accuracy. Recievers running wide open because everyone is up defending the run will increase the completion percentage. Cam's accuracy and footwork need work. But i dont expect any auburn fans to agree with this because after all, Cam is barner-jesus and he does nothing wrong.
Posted by gatorrocks
Lake Mary, FL
Member since Oct 2007
13996 posts
Posted on 2/10/11 at 3:17 pm to
You do realize who else they said this about right? It wasn't that long ago... He's not in the league anymore?
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54838 posts
Posted on 2/10/11 at 3:17 pm to
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Completion percentage does not equal accuracy. Recievers running wide open because everyone is up defending the run will increase the completion percentage. Cam's accuracy and footwork need work.
Cam's accuracy and footwork improved greatly over the course of the season. They still need some improvement, but he is as far or further along than most college QB's before the draft, IMO.

FTR-Campbell's completion percentage was also aided by a pretty decent running attack (Cadillac and Brown) as well as a passing attack that relied heavily on screen passes.

Sure passing percentage doesn't necessarily = accuracy, but it is a more objective indicator than your bullshite opinion.

ETA: But I don't expect a Bama fan that signed up to TD for the ATPB to be objective because Cam is the anti-Christ and can't do anything right.
This post was edited on 2/10/11 at 3:20 pm
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 2/10/11 at 3:17 pm to
don't know what you're responding to, but when a scout talks about a quarterback's arm they are talking distance and velocity.
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47827 posts
Posted on 2/10/11 at 3:17 pm to
His footwork needed work in week five of the season. It has been as good as you could want it to be late in the season.

I don't see the gripes with his accuracy either.
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