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re: Top 5 SEC defenses last 10 years.

Posted on 4/3/10 at 3:25 pm to
Posted by Lee County Tiger
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Posted on 4/3/10 at 3:25 pm to
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Quit livin' in the past, bitch!



Oh, so much irony.
Posted by FightinTiga
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Posted on 4/3/10 at 3:25 pm to
Had the opportunity to see them in person in the Sugar against Miami.They were a nasty bunch.
Posted by BhamDore
Nashville
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Posted on 4/3/10 at 3:26 pm to
Well I was 4 years old in 92 so I don't remember. Bama 05 and AU 04 had some of the best secondaries I've seen.

Carlos Rogers just locked down half the field and Rosegreen murdered anyone who contemplated making a catch.

The 05 Bama team had a solid secondary to. Ramzee Robinson was underatted and is one of my favorite players.
Posted by bamascott2
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Posted on 4/3/10 at 3:26 pm to
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Just going by what he did on the field he is one of the most overrated players in Alabama history. He may have been able to do more had he had a better offensive line. But I don't do "ifs" I do "facts."

I think Brodie was absolutely overrated. Probably because we didn't have much else regarding our program to cheer about during that period. Dark days...
Posted by RollTide1987
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Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 4/3/10 at 3:27 pm to
Eric Curry and John Copeland were the best DE duo to ever play at Alabama. Both were 1st Team All-Americans in '92 I believe.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
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Posted on 4/3/10 at 3:29 pm to
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Lol! You could make an argument for 2nd and 3rd string defenses if you were '95 Nebraska. Your leads weren't that big over those teams in those games. Alabama had a 6-0 lead over Auburn in '04 before your superior depth and talent put us away in the second half. And your scrubs didn't see any playing time against Tennessee in the SEC title. It was 28-21 going into the fourth quarter.


Don't laugh numbnuts. It is legit even though you are too stupid or insecure about your arguement to admit it.

Against Bama, we were in a prevent with a 2td lead when Bama hit a hail mary as the clock was close to running out.

Against UT we were up double digits in the 4th.

Against VT we were up 16-0 in the 4th when VT got its two tds.

It was the same story all year, most of the points were given up later in games when we had big leads or double digit leads and were either in a softer D or had in scrubs.
Posted by BhamDore
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Posted on 4/3/10 at 3:29 pm to
The earliest Bama memories I have are of David Palmer and going to Legion Field when the SECCG game was there.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
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Posted on 4/3/10 at 3:30 pm to
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The 05 Bama team had a solid secondary to. Ramzee Robinson was underatted and is one of my favorite players.


Demeco Ryans was my favorite bama player of all time. He was fun to watch in 2005.
Posted by LSUDad
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Posted on 4/3/10 at 3:31 pm to
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I misadded somewhere


What a shock........
Posted by spacewrangler
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Posted on 4/3/10 at 3:48 pm to
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Had the opportunity to see them in person in the Sugar against Miami.They were a nasty bunch.



I was there as well. it was my JR year at Bama. What a blast that was..NYE, The Game etc... Walked out of Tip's at daylight We started partying seriously about the end of the 3rd quarter of that game as we knew we had it won. damn wish I had a time machine
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 4/3/10 at 3:50 pm to
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Don't laugh numbnuts. It is legit even though you are too stupid or insecure about your arguement to admit it.


I'm not doubting the legitimacy of the '04 Auburn defense. They were a good group. By your reaction, I think you are the one who is insecure.


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Against Bama, we were in a prevent with a 2td lead when Bama hit a hail mary as the clock was close to running out.


That was hardly a Hail Mary pass as time expired. It was an 18-yard touchdown pass that occurred after an 11 play, 84-yard drive. We got the TD with 1:26 left to play in the game. If I remember correctly, we recovered the onside kick but it failed to go 10 yards. The game was a lot closer than you remember. Auburn got 18 first downs, Alabama got 15. Auburn finished with 298 yards of offense, Alabama finished with 276.

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Against UT we were up double digits in the 4th.


In the regular season you were, yes. But it was 28-21 going into the fourth quarter in the SEC Championship Game.


Of the games you listed, the only one where the starters would have gone out was the regular season game against Tennessee where it was 31-3 at the half. Virginia Tech? Maybe, but I bet those starters would have come right back in when Virginia Tech made a game of it.


Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 4/3/10 at 3:55 pm to
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I vote for the '05 Alabama defense.


Unfortunately for the members of the 2005 Alabama defense, the University was forced to vacate every win that season.

Technically, that team was 0-2.

LINK
This post was edited on 4/3/10 at 3:59 pm
Posted by StreetDiction
Austin
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 4/3/10 at 3:58 pm to
ha, the 05 Bama defense that didn't even win the SEC West is better than the 03 LSU defense? Hilarious.

Bama played a decent Tech team in the lowly Cotton Bowl who had only scored a bunch of points versus weak opponents and averaged under 20 points against the 3 good teams they played and held them to 10. Congrats

LSU 03 went on to play a good Georgia team and held them to 13 in the SECCG and then played Oklahoma (the highest scoring offense in 2003 with 45.2 points a game) and held them to 14.

Oh yeah, and we beat Bama both years.


Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 4/3/10 at 3:59 pm to
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Unfortunately for the members of the 2005 Alabama defense, the University was forced to vacate every win that season.

Technically, that team was 0-2.


Unfortunately for you, the wiping away of wins does not wipe away stats. While the wins are no longer there, the stats still are.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 4/3/10 at 3:59 pm to
To be fair, Bama's offense sucked balls that year.

LSU in 2003, on the other hand, had a school-record setting offense.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 4/3/10 at 4:01 pm to
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While the wins are no longer there, the stats still are.



Hmmm....I suppose so. I was just throwing a little wrench in your spokes there.

That defense was badass, don't get me wrong.

As for the comparison between LSU 03 and Bama 05....each team played 5 ranked opponents.

I think LSU's stats are slightly skewed because they gave up 24 pts to Arkansas that year (hung 55 on them, though). The most points they gave up in any other game was 14. If not for that game, LSU might have better stats. However, you can't take that game away, so Bama was better.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 4/3/10 at 4:02 pm to
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ha, the 05 Bama defense that didn't even win the SEC West is better than the 03 LSU defense? Hilarious.


You would have a great argument if we were talking about which team was the better one. But we are not, we are talking about which team had the better defense. '03 LSU had a pretty good offense to compliment that stout defense of yours. The 2005 Alabama defense had no such thing as their offense ranked among the worst in Division I football that year. That defense won 10 games practically all by themselves in '05.

Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 4/3/10 at 4:07 pm to
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'03 LSU had a pretty good offense


Better than pretty good.

Andrew Whitworth
Stephen Peterman
Ben Wilkerson
Devery Henderson
Michael Clayton
Justin Vincent
Joseph Addai
Eric Edwards
Skylar Green

Just to name a few. That offense set records. Those records were broken by Crowton's 2007 offense, but the 03 offense was good.
This post was edited on 4/3/10 at 4:09 pm
Posted by spacewrangler
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Posted on 4/3/10 at 4:11 pm to
someone needs to post the Defensive starters on the 03 LSU and the 05 Bama teams.

Both of those 2 D's were bad arse. If a team has the best D in the SEC on any particular year then that D was bad arse. Yes some might be slightly better than the other but not by widemargins.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
69374 posts
Posted on 4/3/10 at 4:12 pm to
And just take a look at what Alabama did on defense from September 17 - November 12, 2005:

at South Carolina W 37-14
vs Arkansas W 24-13
vs Florida W 31-3
at Ole Miss W 13-10
vs Tennessee W 6-3
vs Utah State W 35-3
at Mississippi State W 17-0 (all points came from defense and special teams)

That 7 game stretch by the defense is one of the greatest in modern college football history.

This post was edited on 4/3/10 at 4:12 pm
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