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Posted on 6/9/14 at 10:53 am to beaver
To be fair, I circle-jerked about Cam Newton and Nick Marshall when they were set to arrive at Auburn (and Kiehl Frazier to an extent, but not as much as the other 2).
I was also the only one calling for Cam Newton to win the Heisman roughly around the time he dominated against South Carolina the first time around.
I was also the only one calling for Cam Newton to win the Heisman roughly around the time he dominated against South Carolina the first time around.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 10:53 am to DaBama
Its a beautiful thing.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 10:56 am to DaBama
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Same here. When we go to an empty backfield shotgun set, defenses will have something new to worry about.
Well, he better show he can hit WRs, otherwise he'll get wrecked. Btw, how many times you think y'all are going to go into a no RB backfield with a new QB and that stable of RBs? If y'all do it just once, Kiffin should be fired on the spot.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 10:58 am to LSUdm21
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Well, he better show he can hit WRs, otherwise he'll get wrecked. Btw, how many times you think y'all are going to go into a no RB backfield with a new QB and that stable of RBs? If y'all do it just once, Kiffin should be fired on the spot.
We will do it enough. We aren't running the wing T. It's a good thing to mix up the play calls, and we have enough talent at WR this year to really threaten teams through the air. Hopefully Coker's accuracy will not be an issue. I'm more concerned with the Oline providing enough time.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 11:00 am to Patton
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What are you talking about?
Only that all three of those QBs are/were average pro QBs at best and so getting first round money was as much of a sales job as actually coaching up 3 athletically gifted QBs. Hell, Ponder throws an INT for just about every TD. I will give Manuel his average rookie season, especially since he was hurt. Just saying that coaching those three is not exactly a booming endorsement. Russell was the only one who even lived up to any hype in college.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 11:01 am to coachcrisp
I don't trust a word jimbo fisher says until I see it on the field. if coker keeps his ego in check after that, I'll be impressed.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 11:01 am to SoGaFan
You really think those Qbs were drafted where they were because Jimbo sold them to NFL teams? You really believe that?
Posted on 6/9/14 at 11:03 am to DaBama
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When we go to an empty backfield shotgun set, defenses will have something new to worry about.
Honestly, I don't think any decent defense has EVER worried about an empty backfield set. It usually makes their job much easier, even with a QB that can run.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 11:03 am to LSUdm21
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how many times you think y'all are going to go into a no RB backfield with a new QB and that stable of RBs? If y'all do it just once, Kiffin should be fired on the spot.
I disagree. Bama will do plenty of handing off with Folwer as the lead blocker but they will still have to throw the ball. Even if Coker only hits 50% of his passes, defenses will still have to respect the threat. An empty backfield means Bama will have five receivers which mean the defense will be spread out. That's the perfect time for a designed qb run if you've got one that can actually run.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 11:05 am to Patton
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You really think those Qbs were drafted where they were because Jimbo sold them to NFL teams? You really believe that?
I give up. You are way too literal. Then again, you are a Bammer so it is not surprising.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 11:06 am to Patton
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I'm more concerned with the Oline providing enough time.
I agree. The o-line is the key.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 11:07 am to Patton
quote:Personally, I think they were drafted in the 1st round because teams show a blatant tendency to reach for their franchise quarterback now - mainly due to it being a passing league. EJ Manuel and Christian Ponder were players that should have been, and could have been, taken later than chosen, IMO.
You really think those Qbs were drafted where they were because Jimbo sold them to NFL teams? You really believe that?
Also, Christian Ponder is already a bust. EJ Manuel is to be determined.
Let it be known, this isn't just a Florida State and Jimbo Fisher quarterback type of thing. Teams reach on quarterbacks all of the time. There's no way Logan Thomas should have been drafted in the 2014 NFL Draft... He's just one example.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 11:08 am to SoGaFan
That's right, result to attacking my fanhood because you can't explain yourself correctly. I just don't get what you are insinuating. Fisher coached those three Qbs and they were drafted in the first round. Whether he is responsible for that or not he does get some credit for it.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 11:09 am to TTsTowel
I don't disagree
Posted on 6/9/14 at 11:13 am to Patton
I'm more concerned with the Oline providing enough time.
and this is where you should be worried.
and this is where you should be worried.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 11:32 am to TTsTowel
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Personally, I think they were drafted in the 1st round because teams show a blatant tendency to reach for their franchise quarterback now - mainly due to it being a passing league.
I agree with this. Add to the equation the rookie salary structure and it is much less expensive to miss on a QB in round 1 than it used to be. That financial risk being minimized will only increase chances of a QB being taken earlier than he should be.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 11:34 am to TutHillTiger
ATPB.dr
Posted on 6/9/14 at 11:38 am to RockyMtnTigerWDE
Please get your hopes up Alabama fans. Will be Oh so sweet to watch you eat him alive once he starts struggling
Posted on 6/9/14 at 11:47 am to Patton
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That's right, result to attacking my fanhood because you can't explain yourself correctly. I just don't get what you are insinuating. Fisher coached those three Qbs and they were drafted in the first round. Whether he is responsible for that or not he does get some credit for it.
I was merely implying that using 3 QBs' draft position, 2 of which have already proven to have very little clue on how to efficiently run a team from the QB position in the pros, is not the most ringing endorsement for a coach's opinion, no matter where they were drafted. Especially since the only thing that I remember about 2 of the 3 in college, is how they inevitably fell apart at key points in games and never lived up to all the hype surrounding them in an actual game.
Using draft position in general to endorse a coach's prowess is amusing to me. As you and others have so eloquently argued, it is an amalgam of many different factors.
Of course, a coach is going to talk up his own guys. Hell, look at George Whitfield talking up every college QB that is willing to shell out thousands of dollars to watch them throw for a week. Does he know his job? I am sure he does. But I still just laugh when he throws out another superlative with regards to a QB now.
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