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The SEC & Big Ten would be fools to agree to a 3, 3, 2, 2, 1 format for a 14 team Playoff
Posted on 3/1/24 at 1:38 pm
Posted on 3/1/24 at 1:38 pm
By doing what the SEC & Big Ten are doing "3 team guarantee" they are potentially limiting access to 2 of their teams every year.
By demanding a guarantee of 3 teams each, 6 teams total, you also must give the ACC & Big 12 a guarantee of 2 teams each, 4 teams total.
You need to look no further than just last year to see how this "3, 3, 2, 2, 1 format" would limit access to one of the SEC or Big Ten's teams.
Last year, Louisville was the ACC's 2nd highest ranked team prior to Bowl selection. They were ranked No.15 in the Playoff Committee's final ranking, but because of the SEC & Big Ten's short sightedness, Louisville has a guaranteed spot in the 14 team Playoff. Last year, No.23 Liberty would also have a guaranteed spot as the highest ranked Group of 5 Champion.
Without doing any more digging into this 14 team Playoff hypothetical, it is already crystal clear that the SEC & Big Ten would be foolish to agree to a "3, 3, 2, 2, 1 format" even if it was THEIR proposal.
By the SEC & Big Ten demanding a guarantee of 6 teams, a compromise is needed. The ACC & Big 12 understand completely that they are not on the same level as the SEC & Big Ten, but this is their opportunity to stick it to them.
Somewhere in a conference room of ACC & Big 12 officials...So, the SEC & Big Ten want a guarantee of 6 teams that 99.99% of the time would already be in the Playoff? OK, let's go ahead and give them that in writing, if and only if they agree to give us a 4 team guarantee that would include our conference champions plus our next 2 highest ranked teams.
There is no need to do any more digging to see how this proposal would potentially screw the SEC/Big Ten and favor the ACC/Big 12. All that is needed is to look back just 1 year.
No.23 Liberty has a guaranteed spot in the 14 team Playoff, so right off the bat, you can cross the team that was ranked No.14 off the list. Who was ranked No.14? Arizona
By the ACC/Big 12's brilliant negotiating tactics, No.15 Louisville would also have a guaranteed spot in the 14 team Playoff as the ACC's 2nd highest ranked team. Now, we can cross the team that was ranked No.13 off the list? Who was ranked No.13? LSU
If this "3, 3, 2, 2, 1" format for a 14 team Playoff would have been in place last season, the SEC/Big Ten would be the big loser. The SEC and the Big Ten had 8 teams combined that were ranked No.13 or higher, but because of their short sightedness only 7 teams would have been in.
SEC/Big Ten teams ranked in the Top 13
1. Michigan
4. Alabama
6. Georgia
7. Ohio State
9. Missouri
10. Penn State
11. Ole Miss
13. LSU (OUT)
The ONLY format that the SEC/Big Ten should agree to is a "4+1" format that would provide a guaranteed spot to the Conference Champions from the SEC, Big Ten, ACC, Big 12, and Group of 5.
That's it!
Stop negotiating!
Stop trying to push something that guarantees spots to teams that could quite possibly not even be ranked. Giving the ACC/Big 12 a 4 team guarantee could potentially keep up to 2 SEC/Big Ten teams from making the Playoff.
The evidence of this potentially happening occurred just a few months ago.
To the officials that reside in the SEC/Big Ten...Your negotiating tactics are flawed. Your only goal is to get as many of your teams in as possible. This will happen 99.99% of the time with a 4+1 format. Fools you will be if you agree to anything else.
Grab a piece of paper and write down "4+1", throw it down on the table and walk away!
This negotiation is done!
By demanding a guarantee of 3 teams each, 6 teams total, you also must give the ACC & Big 12 a guarantee of 2 teams each, 4 teams total.
You need to look no further than just last year to see how this "3, 3, 2, 2, 1 format" would limit access to one of the SEC or Big Ten's teams.
Last year, Louisville was the ACC's 2nd highest ranked team prior to Bowl selection. They were ranked No.15 in the Playoff Committee's final ranking, but because of the SEC & Big Ten's short sightedness, Louisville has a guaranteed spot in the 14 team Playoff. Last year, No.23 Liberty would also have a guaranteed spot as the highest ranked Group of 5 Champion.
Without doing any more digging into this 14 team Playoff hypothetical, it is already crystal clear that the SEC & Big Ten would be foolish to agree to a "3, 3, 2, 2, 1 format" even if it was THEIR proposal.
By the SEC & Big Ten demanding a guarantee of 6 teams, a compromise is needed. The ACC & Big 12 understand completely that they are not on the same level as the SEC & Big Ten, but this is their opportunity to stick it to them.
Somewhere in a conference room of ACC & Big 12 officials...So, the SEC & Big Ten want a guarantee of 6 teams that 99.99% of the time would already be in the Playoff? OK, let's go ahead and give them that in writing, if and only if they agree to give us a 4 team guarantee that would include our conference champions plus our next 2 highest ranked teams.
There is no need to do any more digging to see how this proposal would potentially screw the SEC/Big Ten and favor the ACC/Big 12. All that is needed is to look back just 1 year.
No.23 Liberty has a guaranteed spot in the 14 team Playoff, so right off the bat, you can cross the team that was ranked No.14 off the list. Who was ranked No.14? Arizona
By the ACC/Big 12's brilliant negotiating tactics, No.15 Louisville would also have a guaranteed spot in the 14 team Playoff as the ACC's 2nd highest ranked team. Now, we can cross the team that was ranked No.13 off the list? Who was ranked No.13? LSU
If this "3, 3, 2, 2, 1" format for a 14 team Playoff would have been in place last season, the SEC/Big Ten would be the big loser. The SEC and the Big Ten had 8 teams combined that were ranked No.13 or higher, but because of their short sightedness only 7 teams would have been in.
SEC/Big Ten teams ranked in the Top 13
1. Michigan
4. Alabama
6. Georgia
7. Ohio State
9. Missouri
10. Penn State
11. Ole Miss
13. LSU (OUT)
The ONLY format that the SEC/Big Ten should agree to is a "4+1" format that would provide a guaranteed spot to the Conference Champions from the SEC, Big Ten, ACC, Big 12, and Group of 5.
That's it!
Stop negotiating!
Stop trying to push something that guarantees spots to teams that could quite possibly not even be ranked. Giving the ACC/Big 12 a 4 team guarantee could potentially keep up to 2 SEC/Big Ten teams from making the Playoff.
The evidence of this potentially happening occurred just a few months ago.
To the officials that reside in the SEC/Big Ten...Your negotiating tactics are flawed. Your only goal is to get as many of your teams in as possible. This will happen 99.99% of the time with a 4+1 format. Fools you will be if you agree to anything else.
Grab a piece of paper and write down "4+1", throw it down on the table and walk away!
This negotiation is done!
Posted on 3/1/24 at 4:26 pm to KeyserSoze007
This is not what I envisioned when Petitti and Sankey got together. This is ESPN TV rights-level nonsense.
The B1G and SEC need to hold the ACC and Big 12 to 1 bid each. No G5 unless they are ranked above 14.
The B1G and SEC need to hold the ACC and Big 12 to 1 bid each. No G5 unless they are ranked above 14.
Posted on 3/1/24 at 5:42 pm to KeyserSoze007
Lots of ideas are being thrown. They've even suggested a format where big and sec get the only first round byes. They have the cards and know what they want. They just need it to be on record that they tried to negotiate in good faith so antitrust allegations don't get thrown around.
Posted on 3/1/24 at 5:54 pm to KeyserSoze007
They should honestly tell the CFP and the rest of the conferences to frick off. Since this sport is becoming NFL lite anyway, create small divisions in each conference, do their own playoffs, and college super bowl and let the CFP, Big 12, ACC, and G5 fade into irrelevancy and die.
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