re: The Ole Miss investigation is HOT this morning local radio

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"Steve Robertson is a trashy guy" , the typical Ole Miss character attacks

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He is a former felon, drug addict and currently has dreadlocks while in his 40's. Everyone would think "trash" when viewing him.

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I have a hot wife thank you very much. I must confess I married up. I'm financially secure. Unlike you I don't feel a need to brag about it. It's what Ole Miss people do, not me. Perhaps I could teach YOU about real estate and investing, hmm?

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You married money ergo you are a real estate and investment genius.

Makes sense.

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think its pretty clear here that Hugh Freeze didn't bring this type of cheating to Ole Miss, Ole Miss pursues minions that will continue their cheating culture.

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That's what always tripped me out about the thought that a coach brings the cheating. Coaches aren't paying players. Boosters do. The boosters stay while coaches leave. The reason OM's recruiting got better is because Freeze actually believed in recruiting and did it 365 days. Nutt didn't even recruit during the season. Freeze had a 3 hour recruiting meeting with his coaches 6 days a week. Nutt had a recruiting meeting once a month, 8 months out of the year.

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Ole Miss used Houston Nutt as a scapegoat when they were caught, except Nutt hit back

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The scape goat? The worst thing in the NOA, and the thing that brought the ncaa to our door step was the academic fraud that Nutt's coaches admitted they knew about. That isn't a scape goat saying the majority of the charges weren't football or this football staff which was true. Of the 28 charges 13 had to do with football, that is the minority. Of those 13 charges, 7 were level one violations, 4 of which had to do with the previous administration. Once again, the minority. Nutt is not innocent or a scape goat. Freeze put out misleading info to OM writers to save a recruiting class. That's it.

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Not sure if you've read the NCAA response, but it is devastating for OM. If the COI views the evidence from the investigative arm as being concrete, then OM it going to get hammered like USC did, but without the inherent benefits USC had that helped them recover faster. It may cripple OM for a decade.

The investigative arm said that it wasn't an atmosphere of compliance, that OM broke rules while being investigated, that the institution lacked institutional control, and that OM did not meet the standard of exemplary cooperation. All not good.

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I read the whole thing. Devastating is too kind. It gutted them like a fish.

What I'm getting at is that with Hugh they could keep the band together. Even if the NCAA hammered them, they'd still have a mutual protection society. Based on the posts here, it is clear most of their fans haven't read it and are still buying the "they're just picking on us" line. They could play that and maybe keep a job. The entire staff now has to think of their individual futures. With Freeze gone and Luke playing the part former played by John L. Smith, they all know they've got no future at OM.

The NCAA's been handing out show-causes like candy at Halloween these days. If you're named in that report, you're going to try everything you can to avoid ending up seeking a career outside of NCAA football. Given the chance, those guys are now going to point the finger somewhere else - certainly at Freeze and maybe even Bjork.

Before I read that rebuttal, I was on the fence about what I thought would happen. I thought there was about an even-money chance they'd get something close to what they self-imposed. After reading the rebuttal, I also fully expect them to get at least USC-level sanctions.

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Of the 28 charges 13 had to do with football, that is the minority. Of those 13 charges, 7 were level one violations, 4 of which had to do with the previous administration. Once again, the minority. Nutt is not innocent or a scape goat. Freeze put out misleading info to OM writers to save a recruiting class. That's it.

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How about no?

Counting the LOIC charge, there are 21 football charges. Of those 21, four are on Saunders and Vaughn - and thus Nutt by proxy. The other SEVENTEEN (81%) are related to events that happened during the Freeze administration.

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Warren made comments that he'd already had tons of OM fans tell him if he gets disassociated they wouldn't give him any business and his sales would suffer.

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They may well have told him that, but he can't win a lawsuit on it.

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My bad, it was Merkle that said Warren had received threats that folks would boycott his store and he'd received hate mail, and people blaming Warren for the NCAA stuff, etc. And that disassociation from OleMiss would put him out of business.

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Yall all say OM lied and made Nutt a scape goat

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Nope. Mr Mars said that. And apparently there is enough evidence to proceed with a suit, if they can just find the correct venue

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Nope. Mr Mars said that. And apparently there is enough evidence to proceed with a suit, if they can just find the correct venue

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What do you mean nope? This thread and many before it are about OM lying and making Nutt a scape goat. Do you not believe that? Are you saying that the people who have posted that several times in this actual thread don't believe that? Are you reading what you are writing?

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his is the issue with all of yall. You read headlines and have no timeline of events.

Yall all say OM lied and made Nutt a scape goat. Those comments came after our first NOA. That's where all the numbers I listed above came from.

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It's best to stay in the here and now as that's all that matters at this point. Nutt/Mars have more ammunition now than they had previously. I guess they'll pull more skeleton's out of that closet next week.