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re: The Newton Rule?

Posted on 12/15/10 at 11:55 am to
Posted by MattFlynnRox
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Posted on 12/15/10 at 11:55 am to
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dumber than that avi you sport.




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you are just trolling


No, just tyring to generate discussion on a message board--that's not a federal crime the last time I checked.
Posted by TT9
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Posted on 12/15/10 at 11:55 am to
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This post was edited on 12/15/10 at 11:56 am
Posted by MichiganTiger
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Posted on 12/15/10 at 11:55 am to
Let's face it...someone paid for Cam...and right now, he was worth every penny. Without Cam, Auburn would have been mediocre at best. That man put the team on his shoulders and carried you to where you currently are.

That being said, the ONLY reason we KNOW someone at AU paid for Cam...is b/c the spurned suitor (MSU) ratted the Cam Plan out, more than likely b/c they saw what a force that Cam is....and realized they should have ponied up MORE b/c they could potentially be playing for an NC against Oregon instead of AU!
Posted by MichiganTiger
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Posted on 12/15/10 at 11:56 am to
The "NEW" Newton Rule...if you've got a shot at Cam...put up the big bucks...b/c he's worth it!

Posted by RT1941
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Posted on 12/15/10 at 11:57 am to
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no, just really hard to believe.
Did the NCAA have any comments by Bush on tape that he knew his parents were getting a free house? No, but the NCAA didn't still have millions to gain in a bowl game by the time they ruled on Bush, so they were able to bring the hammer.


^^This - The folks that will be gaining huge amounts of cash off of AU will not make a decision until the cold cash is firmly placed in their coffers. Then, when the money can't be touched and everyone has their payday - the NCAA hammer will fall.

It doesn't matter one bit to the Newton's though - they will have moved on to greener pastures with a hefty NFL contract.

We'll all see how the AU fans/supporters/alumni feel about the Newton "Family" then.
Posted by WDE24
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Posted on 12/15/10 at 12:00 pm to
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The folks that will be gaining huge amounts of cash off of AU will not make a decision until the cold cash is firmly placed in their coffers. Then, when the money can't be touched and everyone has their payday
The NCAA doesn't make any $ off of the NCG. Even if they did, AU not playing in it wouldn't mean the game was cancelled. It's ok if you think AU and Cam and Cecil and whoever else are guilty sleazebags, but at least try to deal in reality.
Posted by razorbill
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Posted on 12/15/10 at 12:04 pm to
It is my understanding that a university must investigate themselves to see if a violation has occurred. If that is the case, a university that would name a stadium after a crook, then be in charge to investigate themselves, I don't think so!!!!
Posted by villager
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 12/15/10 at 12:05 pm to
the point was made that if cecil is a POS then Cam by default is, as well.

but i'm sure you saw this..
From all I've heard/read it seems Ingram is a good person.

speaking of song and dances.. and I know I'm new.. but most of the posts I see from you are bashing Auburn or talking about people's outward appearances. Your brand of cheer is so
Posted by Ross
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Posted on 12/15/10 at 12:18 pm to
The NCAA doesn't make a dime off of TV ratings.
Posted by Ross
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Posted on 12/15/10 at 12:20 pm to
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Cheating POS program and University.




I don't value my degree any less because you think that, and I honestly won't value our team or their accomplishments this season any less because of your opinion.
Posted by 4nmylifetime
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Posted on 12/15/10 at 12:24 pm to
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The NCAA doesn't make a dime off of TV ratings.


Not directly but they do make money off of TV contracts, and better ratings lead to higher contracts when they need to be renewed.
Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 12/15/10 at 12:25 pm to
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Even more confusing when he later tells Chris Fowler in an interview that the decision was his and his alone.


If you decide to buy a car but you're afraid you'll make the wrong decision so you decide to let your Dad choose the car you're going to buy, after you sign the loan papers did your Dad buy the car?
Posted by WDE24
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Posted on 12/15/10 at 12:26 pm to
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Not directly but they do make money off of TV contracts
I am pretty sure they don't. TV contracts are negotiated with individual schools and conferences when it comes to football. They do make a ton of $ off of the NCAA Basketball tourney and its TV contract.
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47825 posts
Posted on 12/15/10 at 12:27 pm to
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I am pretty sure they don't. TV contracts are negotiated with individual schools and conferences when it comes to football. They do make a ton of $ off of the NCAA Basketball tourney and its TV contract.



That is what I've always thought. For the most part conferences make the television deals and in some cases individual schools do.
Posted by WDE24
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Posted on 12/15/10 at 12:28 pm to
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"We don't have anything to do with the bowl games," said Emmert, who added that the NCAA does get an annual share of $400,000 overall from all of the bowl games, a pittance of funds compared to the millions that are brought in and shared by only the schools and conferences that participate in the bowl system. The entire NCAA membership shares in the 14-year, $10.8 billion men's basketball tournament television deal with CBS/Turner.
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"We are heavily involved in the rules in which the game is played and the way football is operated but we don't manage the media revenue for the conferences or the championship," Emmert said. "We never controlled the championship. We never had one. There's never been a I-A football championship in American history. It's easy to forget that the BCS was an attempt to create one."


As a side note: I like how the NCAA president uses the term 1-A instead of FBS. Can we just change it back and admit that the anme changes were a bad idea and created confusion?
This post was edited on 12/15/10 at 12:31 pm
Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
38476 posts
Posted on 12/15/10 at 12:29 pm to
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What, exactly, did Ingram Sr.'s transgressions have to do with Ingram Jr. and his collegiate football career?

Nothing.

Cecil's transgressions are directly related to his son's collegiate football career.

If you can't see the difference in that, then you are dumber than that avi you sport.

Or, and more likely, you are just trolling. I've seen this song and dance from you before.


All of the above was in direct response to the saying "the apple doesn't fall very far from the tree".

Which is a general statement and has nothing to do with collegiate football.
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 12/15/10 at 12:29 pm to
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Even more confusing when he later tells Chris Fowler in an interview that the decision was his and his alone.




If you decide to buy a car but you're afraid you'll make the wrong decision so you decide to let your Dad choose the car you're going to buy, after you sign the loan papers did your Dad buy the car?


Horrible analogy and grossly inaccurate in comparison to what was said and done.
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90742 posts
Posted on 12/15/10 at 12:31 pm to
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All of the above was in direct response to the saying "the apple doesn't fall very far from the tree".


I said, it was possible he didn't know. I then said it's possible the apple didn't fall far from the tree. Considering his arrest, lies to police, subsequent story changing.. that's a very plausible possibility.
Posted by e2drummer
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 12/15/10 at 12:31 pm to
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That being said, the ONLY reason we KNOW someone at AU paid for Cam...is b/c the spurned suitor (MSU) ratted the Cam Plan out, more than likely b/c they saw what a force that Cam is....

The credibility of that quote is in question. From Schad's article:
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After Newton committed to Auburn, another source said an emotional Cam Newton phoned another recruiter to express regret that he wouldn't be going to Mississippi State, stating that his father, Cecil, had chosen Auburn for him because "the money was too much."

So, we're getting "the money was too much" from a source through a source? Sound's credible. Do you honestly think the NCAA hasn't already interviewed those recruiters? They obviously have and those recruiters have now shut up.

Also, the NCAA has already concluded their investigation for now. From Mark Emmert in the video in the ESPN article:
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"Our staff and enforcement did a great investigation. They did it quickly; they got to the facts as best as we can find them."
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47825 posts
Posted on 12/15/10 at 12:31 pm to
The thing I wonder is, after an NCAA investigation coupled with an FBI investigation, if Auburn is exonerated completely, how many people will still cry conspiracy.


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