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re: The NCAA is 100% to blame on NIL.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 11:35 am to FooManChoo
Posted on 1/3/22 at 11:35 am to FooManChoo
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Not the NCAA's fault that their hand was forced by politicians. You can say that the NCAA should have done something sooner and to a lesser extent, but government could still get involved and have the same outcome.
I think the point is the pols might not have gotten involved if you didn't have millionaire old white men telling 18-21 year old kids they can't get a job (against the rules) or have a formal form of payment beyond their scholarship.
If we're lucky and this thing settles at $50K per kid, that is likely way more $$ than what would've settled things a year or two ago.
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Posted on 1/3/22 at 11:35 am to CNB
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is when they appealed to the Supreme Court. Still a head scratcher of a move
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They got the same ruling from the lower court.Its why they appealed.
NIL was gonna happen with or without the appeal.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 11:38 am to WorkinDawg
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I think the point is the pols might not have gotten involved if you didn't have millionaire old white men telling 18-21 year old kids they can't get a job (against the rules) or have a formal form of payment beyond their scholarship.
Very much this. Show me any other student who is prevented from having a job during the summer to help make ends meet even though that student "has free tuition, food, boarding, etc."
Posted on 1/3/22 at 11:51 am to TheFourHorsemen
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They should have changed with the time 30 years ago.
If they made it legal for players to receive a maximum of say 50k a year this would not have happened. But being so stubborn and worried about meaningless stuff like if a player got a $100 handshake or a loaner car from a dealer or if a player gave a girl a math book. They created this mess.
There are no NCAA bylaws on the subject. They are letting State's set the standard right now.
That will change. Once this stuff settles down and we settle into the new blueprint for doing business you will see some new bylaws to govern NILs.
In the meantime, nothing has really changed the balance of power in college football. The big boys are eating.
Can you name me one blueblood program that has been hit hard by the new business model?
I still think the magic portal is changing the dynamics of college football more than NILs.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 11:54 am to WorkinDawg
quote:Whether you agree with why they had the stance they did, the NCAA wasn't at fault for not compromising on it just because it led to government getting involved.
I think the point is the pols might not have gotten involved if you didn't have millionaire old white men telling 18-21 year old kids they can't get a job (against the rules) or have a formal form of payment beyond their scholarship.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 11:59 am to FooManChoo
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Whether you agree with why they had the stance they did, the NCAA wasn't at fault for not compromising on it just because it led to government getting involved.
If you're running a billion dollar enterprise it's your business to read the tea leaves and protect what your interests. This wasn't hard to predict. NCAA very clearly screwed the pooch on this one.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 12:41 pm to WorkinDawg
quote:NCAA is at fault for not going against it's desire to keep money (officially) out of recruiting because the tides were changing politically?
If you're running a billion dollar enterprise it's your business to read the tea leaves and protect what your interests. This wasn't hard to predict. NCAA very clearly screwed the pooch on this one.
You sound principled.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 12:47 pm to FooManChoo
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NCAA is at fault for not going against it's desire to keep money (officially) out of recruiting because the tides were changing politically?
You sound principled.
Wut? First, if the NCAA was in fact "principled" this might have all been avoided. But they lacked the leadership and credibility to govern effectively.
And giving players a uniform stipend or payment is the exactly how you keep $$ out of recruiting. Their lack of judgement and foresight led to the wild-west nonsense we have today....where millions are tied directly to recruiting.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 12:54 pm to WorkinDawg
quote:I disagree. The NCAA is dumb in a lot of ways but the NIL has effectively made college football "pay to play", and out in the open, too.
Wut? First, if the NCAA was in fact "principled" this might have all been avoided. But they lacked the leadership and credibility to govern effectively.
quote:Stipends and direct payments of how much? You don't seem to realize that inches=miles. There's no way to do that uniformly without already giving away too much. The players would just demand more, saying that what they get paid isn't equitable to what they bring in for the schools.
And giving players a uniform stipend or payment is the exactly how you keep $$ out of recruiting.
Also, schools would have to give stipends to players for other sports (including women) that don't bring in any money at all. There are unintended consequences of going that route.
quote:Again, it is the government that opened the door here. Pinning everything on the NCAA is absurd.
Their lack of judgement and foresight led to the wild-west nonsense we have today....where millions are tied directly to recruiting.
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