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re: The "Missouri Waltz" - how do I square my Yankeehood with our game anthem???

Posted on 6/7/12 at 8:40 pm to
Posted by semotruman
Member since Nov 2011
23188 posts
Posted on 6/7/12 at 8:40 pm to
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I do think it's cool y'all said no to Kansas plates though. frick those guys

On this, we can agree.

I have a lot of family in Arkansas and have cheered for them, when they weren't playing Mizzou. My parents are from Arkansas, and the 2007 Cottonbowl just about sent my dad over the edge - he wore a Mizzou shirt and Arkansas hat that day.

@RhodeIslandRed - You know your Missouri stuff well! I think you're the reason I ever visited this board in the first place, if you're the same one who recommended it on Tigerboard. Thanks!! And my Southeast Missouri accent isn't quite as strong as it once was, but it's still there!
This post was edited on 6/7/12 at 8:42 pm
Posted by Tackle74
Columbia, MO
Member since Mar 2012
5482 posts
Posted on 6/7/12 at 8:51 pm to
Since we are talking history here, note when Missouri Territory was formed it included what is today Arkansas. Why are there 2 states then? When Missouri pushed for statehood circa 1820, they decided to dump everything south of what is today's border. Arky is kind of like Missouri's little brother that has jealously issues.
Posted by blacknblu
Member since Nov 2011
10276 posts
Posted on 6/7/12 at 8:58 pm to
Careful what you say, we were all part of the Lousianna Purchase, and some may expound upon your observations

Posted by KCM0Tiger
Kansas City, MISSOURI
Member since Nov 2011
16952 posts
Posted on 6/7/12 at 9:01 pm to
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Careful what you say, we were all part of the Lousianna Purchase, and some may expound upon your observations



Posted by semotruman
Member since Nov 2011
23188 posts
Posted on 6/7/12 at 9:02 pm to
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Careful what you say, we were all part of the Lousianna Purchase, and some may expound upon your observations

Good point.
Posted by Choctaw Hog
Member since Nov 2006
7586 posts
Posted on 6/7/12 at 9:03 pm to
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frick off carpetbagger!


It's Yankee Carpetbagger to you bub.
Posted by RhodeIslandRed
Adrift Off the Spanish Main
Member since Aug 2009
3175 posts
Posted on 6/7/12 at 9:29 pm to
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we were all part of the Lousianna Purchase


Speak for yourself. My ancestors moved to the territory when it was still the Viceroyalty of New Spain.
Posted by Porker Face
Eden Isle
Member since Feb 2012
15948 posts
Posted on 6/7/12 at 9:49 pm to
I know Arkansas's history, but I really don't know how Missouri picked its borders. Could you enlighten me? How did they carve present-day Missouri out of this?

Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
40686 posts
Posted on 6/7/12 at 9:52 pm to
Well, I can see the entire eastern side of Missouri. That's a start...
This post was edited on 6/7/12 at 9:53 pm
Posted by Porker Face
Eden Isle
Member since Feb 2012
15948 posts
Posted on 6/7/12 at 9:54 pm to
Also found this map. MO looks weird as hell like that. And thank God we got rid of that chunk of OK

Posted by semotruman
Member since Nov 2011
23188 posts
Posted on 6/7/12 at 9:56 pm to
There's a History Channel show on this - how states got their shapes. I've never watched it though.
Posted by Porker Face
Eden Isle
Member since Feb 2012
15948 posts
Posted on 6/7/12 at 9:59 pm to
I watched it once and the guy was really annoying
Posted by semotruman
Member since Nov 2011
23188 posts
Posted on 6/7/12 at 10:03 pm to
Apparently there's a book too, but I'm not buying it to find out.

I do know that originally the proposed line was on the parallel of the line between Kentucky and Tennessee, but the Missouri Compromise lowered it and kept the bootheel. God's country, I tell ya!
Posted by Stripes314
St. Louis
Member since Oct 2011
5036 posts
Posted on 6/7/12 at 10:05 pm to
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Porker and DudeFish dip their sticks in each other's chocolate syrup...often.

"Right there, DudeFish. That's the spot. Now slap my arse and tell me you hate Missouri."


Posted by Porker Face
Eden Isle
Member since Feb 2012
15948 posts
Posted on 6/7/12 at 10:06 pm to
Yeah the story I've always heard was some wealthy guy wanted to be in Missouri instead of Arkansas and he lived in the Bootheel, so he made it happen. You can probably verify that, maybe I'm full of shite.

SEMO is the only part I've never really been to, I've worn the rest of the state out though.
Posted by semotruman
Member since Nov 2011
23188 posts
Posted on 6/7/12 at 10:19 pm to
You can google "bootheel" and there's a Wikipedia entry that explains it. It was part of the Missouri Compromise. But yeah, there's some quote about Arkansas being full of snakes and panthers and wanting to be in Missouri instead.

SEMO is pretty, and has a different feel from other parts of the state. Much more like Kentucky, or Arkansas, or Mississippi or Tennessee. Just a few miles south of Cape is a big hill, Benton Hill. When you crest that hill going south, there's nothing but flat farmland as far as you can see. Corn, beans, cotton. And the New Madrid fault line. That's the bootheel. But the counties just north of the bootheel are very pretty.
Posted by Porker Face
Eden Isle
Member since Feb 2012
15948 posts
Posted on 6/7/12 at 10:35 pm to
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Just a few miles south of Cape is a big hill, Benton Hill. When you crest that hill going south, there's nothing but flat farmland as far as you can see. Corn, beans, cotton. And the New Madrid fault line. That's the bootheel. But the counties just north of the bootheel are very pretty.



Thanks for the travel advice, its on the list
Posted by RhodeIslandRed
Adrift Off the Spanish Main
Member since Aug 2009
3175 posts
Posted on 6/7/12 at 10:40 pm to
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@RhodeIslandRed - You know your Missouri stuff well!

Thank you semotruman. I appreciate your kind words

If LSU fans give you too much grief then remind them that JEB Stuart's grandfather was Speaker of the House in the Missouri Territorial Legislature. And that as a young man Stonewall Jackson and his brother lived at Wolf Island in Mississippi County (then a part of Scott County). Of course there was the great Louisianan Jim Bowie. No wait! Bowie lived at New Madrid, Missouri, as an infant.

And as for the R-Kansans and Texicans, Stephen F. Austin was also a member of the Missouri Territorial Legislature. His father owned a general store at Potosi. Austin left Potosi penniless before settling at present day Little Rock. Later he removed to Texas.

ETA: It was probably I who mentioned Tigerdroppings on Tigerboard.
This post was edited on 6/7/12 at 10:54 pm
Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
40686 posts
Posted on 6/7/12 at 11:54 pm to
This is Missouri, the best state in the SEC by far...

Lake of the Ozarks, Party Cove, Missouri

Party Cove

Elephant rocks, Missouri

Gods country

Johnson's Shut ins, Missouri

Shut Ins

Big Cedar Lodge

Table rock lake

Ozark National Scenic Riverways, Missouri

Current River

This post was edited on 6/8/12 at 12:07 am
Posted by Numberwang
Bike City, USA
Member since Feb 2012
13163 posts
Posted on 6/8/12 at 12:06 am to
Most of Oklahoma was part of the Arkansas territory.

:csb:

The panhandle of Oklahoma might possibly be the most boring stretch of the entire U.S. It makes Kansas look scenic, and that's no exaggerration.
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