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Posted on 6/27/17 at 1:31 pm to BHMKyle
You are doing the Lord's work, Kyle. 
Posted on 6/27/17 at 1:36 pm to dawgdayafternoon
Only I am gods appointed speaker for the dead. Sit down.
Posted on 6/27/17 at 1:49 pm to NYCAuburn
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Red herring, this thread really triggered the state folks
Not triggered. Just don't really get the point of the topic. Doesn't every SEC team schedule cupcakes ?
2017 Non Conf.
Bama
Fresno St
Colorado St
Mercer
Aub
Ga Southen
Mercer
LA Monroe
Ark
FLA A&M
New Mex. St
Coastal Carolina
LSU
Chattanooga
Syracuse
Troy
Ole Miss
South Alabama
UT Martin
UL Lafayette (David Saunders Bowl)
State really isn't any different as far as any other SEC team as far as scheduling goes.
Posted on 6/27/17 at 2:04 pm to Quicksilver
The team didn't tank, just the defense. The offense proved they didn't tank in the iron bowl when Sammi Coates made Eddie Jackson his bitch.
Posted on 6/27/17 at 2:07 pm to Ghost Hog
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State really isn't any different as far as any other SEC team as far as scheduling goes.
come on now. Yes teams schedule cupcakes, but they usually schedule at least one power team and sometimes a mediocre power team. State does not
Posted on 6/27/17 at 2:14 pm to Ghost Hog
State's scheduling is fairly different than each of those programs listed, albeit they each do have pretty weak 2017 OOC schedules. I did notice you conspicuously left stronger, scheduled OOC opponents off that list though. Isn't Bama opening against FSU? When was the last time State scheduled a (likely, considering AD's can't predict the future) ranked and/or major P5 OOC game though? Bama (SCw), Auburn (Clempson), LSU (Wiskey), Arkansas (TCU), and Ole Miss (F$U) each played one literally just last season. Mullen is 5-31 against ranked FBS opponents, so it's best served for State's program to minimize games against powerful OOC teams because they'll usually have to play at least 2-3 ranked teams in conference. Would State fans rather schedule Texas, USCw, FSU, Wisconsin, etc., or would they rather have a better bowl game but have to see UMass, BYU, La. Tech, Charleston Southern, etc.?
Posted on 6/27/17 at 2:53 pm to TOFTR
People that schedule those powerhouse games that also play in the SEC are basically idiots, outside of Alabama. There is nothing to gain. Playing in the SEC is plenty good enough for your SOS (and a lot of the SEC teams play a rival outside the SEC every year that is also very good). With the new rule that you have to schedule a P5 team every year OOC, the matchups will automatically get better. As a fan, I love to see the big time OOC matchups, but if your team loses and you were hoping for a big year, your season is done before it even starts. It's a huge risk for nearly nothing in return.
This post was edited on 6/27/17 at 2:55 pm
Posted on 6/27/17 at 2:54 pm to TOFTR
I left off each teams P5 non conference game (which is a required rule now). State's P5 opponent is BYU, as is LSU's. The last time State played a ranked OOC opponent was in 2013 when we opened the season with OK State in Houston.
This post was edited on 6/27/17 at 2:56 pm
Posted on 6/27/17 at 2:56 pm to peepingcrxxms
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People that schedule those powerhouse games that also play in the SEC are basically idiots, outside of Alabama.
Like I said, Vandy and MSU are content to crawl into a bowl game by ducking as much competition as possible. And I am a Vandy season ticket holder so don't beat me up Commodores.
Posted on 6/27/17 at 2:57 pm to TOFTR
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When was the last time State scheduled a (likely, considering AD's can't predict the future) ranked and/or major P5 OOC game though?
Oklahoma State in 2013 (Texas Kickoff game) - ranked #13 in week 1 and #13 at the end of the regular season. Strong opponent.
Posted on 6/27/17 at 2:58 pm to GnashRebel
It has nothing to do with crawling to a bowl game. You can be a really good team and only win 9 games instead of 10 and miss out on a group of 6 bowl because you scheduled like an idiot.
Posted on 6/27/17 at 2:59 pm to Jeb Busch Lite
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Dan Mullen is also 5-3 against Ole Miss
winning record vs Ole Miss and he will stay at State as long as he likes.
Posted on 6/27/17 at 2:59 pm to peepingcrxxms
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Playing in the SEC is plenty good enough for your SOS (and a lot of the SEC teams play a rival outside the SEC every year that is also very good)
Auburn 2004...
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With the new rule that you have to schedule a P5 team every year OOC, the matchups will automatically get better. As a fan, I love to see the big time OOC matchups
Not if you are scheduling p5 teams that are similar to Vandy.
quote:sounds like you toe the company line quite well...
People that schedule those powerhouse games that also play in the SEC are basically idiots, outside of Alabama.
Posted on 6/27/17 at 3:03 pm to NYCAuburn
1.) Auburn still should have been in that game and it was ridiculous that they were left out. With 4 teams now getting into the playoffs that would never happen again.
2.) Vandy is better than UT Chat, but I get your point
3.) Sounds like common sense.
2.) Vandy is better than UT Chat, but I get your point
3.) Sounds like common sense.
This post was edited on 6/27/17 at 3:05 pm
Posted on 6/27/17 at 3:05 pm to Ghost Hog
Isn't BYU an independent because no P5 conference will extend the invite? Granted, their student conduct policy is pretty fricked up, but it's still basically a Mountain West school y'all are playing
ETA: typo
ETA: typo
This post was edited on 6/27/17 at 3:07 pm
Posted on 6/27/17 at 3:07 pm to TOFTR
BYU and the service schools were added to the list of acceptable opponents to qualify for the p5 requirement by the SEC.
Posted on 6/27/17 at 3:07 pm to peepingcrxxms
quote:not really
) Comparing the SEC of 2004 to the SEC of today is really silly
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(Auburn still should have been in that game and it was ridiculous that they were left out
They were left out of the game because of the ooc games.
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With 4 teams now getting into the playoffs that would never happen again).
If it came down to similar records and different ooc games, you bet it will happen again.
quote:okay, but that has nothing to do with what I stated.
2.) Vandy is better than UT Chat, but I get your point
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3.) Sounds like common sense
yes for a sub par team that wants to make it seem like they are accomplishing something, sure. Like I stated in the beginning, state has accepted their role and are playing into it. However, for above par teams, it wont and doesnt work.
Posted on 6/27/17 at 3:09 pm to NYCAuburn
An undefeated SEC West team will never get left out of a 4 team playoff. They should not have been left out of the 2 team playoff, but there is zero chance of that happening with a 4 team playoff and to suggest otherwise is just crazy.
Posted on 6/27/17 at 3:18 pm to TOFTR
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Isn't BYU an independent because no P5 conference will extend the invite? Granted, their student conduct policy is pretty fricked up, but it's still basically a Mountain West school y'all are playing
They also won't play athletic events of any kind on Sundays. Makes it pretty tough on a conference scheduling office.
Also, BYU has a better football history than Ole Miss's P5 opponent Cal. As a matter of fact Vegas has the O/U for BYU wins at 10 this season.
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