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re: The impending death of the HUNH offense...
Posted on 5/3/13 at 10:32 am to Sheetbend
Posted on 5/3/13 at 10:32 am to Sheetbend
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Of course no one knows the future, Saban could retire tommorrow, but that is not likely. TAM could be found cheating and be on NCAA sanctions that would kill its recuiting program, but that is not likely to happen.
We are not Auburn. Get that shite out of here.
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Championship teams can be built around great college QBs, just ask Florida with Tebow, Auburn with Cam Newton, Saban with AJ McCarron, and now TAM with Manziel. And when they leave, the championships can leave just as fast.
AJ is not in the same stratosphere as Johnny.
Posted on 5/3/13 at 10:35 am to UAFanFromNOLA
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I just think it is unfair to call A&M a team that will challenge for SEC and National title every year after a single year.
That isn't what I'm saying... How do you explain Mike Shula? Even teams that have the capability to contend every year, like Alabama, don't. Things happen, but at the core, you have to have certain prerequisites to be a legitimate contender. A&M has everything necessary to be a college football power, and some of those prerequisites, like our recruiting base, are elite. That is the point being made.
Posted on 5/3/13 at 10:37 am to TeLeFaWx
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AJ is not in the same stratosphere as Johnny.
You got that right, AJ has won two National Championships, and Johnny is a one year wonder.
Posted on 5/3/13 at 10:40 am to Sheetbend
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You got that right, AJ has won two National Championships, and Johnny is a one year wonder.
Saban won those. AJ didn't get in the way.
Posted on 5/3/13 at 10:51 am to TeLeFaWx
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Saban won those. AJ didn't get in the way.
No, Iowa St. beat Oklahoma St. in double overtime to give Saban's Bama a mulligan's chance against LSU, and AJ took Bama on his back against LSU last year to win the SEC West.
Without AJ, Bama would probably not have made either BCS C.Game in the past two years.
Posted on 5/3/13 at 10:54 am to UAFanFromNOLA
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They did take quite a few people by surprise and were in a bunch of really close games
Out of 13 games, only Florida, Ole Miss, Louisiana Tech, LSU, and Alabama were close.
They led SMU 34-0 before SMU scored their only points.
They led South Carolina State 49-7 at halftime.
They led Arkansas 27-10 at halftime and 43-10 after 3.
They led Auburn 28-0 before Auburn scored, 49-7 when they pulled Manziel in the 3rd.
They led Mississippi State 31-0 before the grinderhashtags scored their first point.
They led Sam Houston State 34-0 at halftime and 47-0 before pulling the starters in the 3rd.
They led Missouri 42-0 before Missouri scored their first point.
They may have only been up 14-13 on Oklahoma at halftime, but the score was 34-13 after 3 and Oklahoma never really challenged.
Posted on 5/3/13 at 11:26 am to TeLeFaWx
quote:i understand that, and that is why I said it is certainly possible. Sumlin was a first year head coach, so I want to see if he can repeat this amount of success before saying his teams can compete year in and year out.
That isn't what I'm saying... How do you explain Mike Shula? Even teams that have the capability to contend every year, like Alabama, don't. Things happen, but at the core, you have to have certain prerequisites to be a legitimate contender. A&M has everything necessary to be a college football power, and some of those prerequisites, like our recruiting base, are elite. That is the point being made.
Posted on 5/3/13 at 11:29 am to CGSC Lobotomy
Most fans on this site are blind to the sleeping giant that has just woken up to find itself in the SEC with a Heisman Trophy QB and a great coaching staff.
All that is needed is a few more years of great recruiting classes, and the Aggies will match Bama and LSU with the same amount of talented depth that it takes to be a perennial power in the SEC.
With Manziel, the Aggies can compete now for the SEC West, but your Aggies have to remain injury free, which is tuff to do in the SEC--week in and week out.
Even if you beat Bama early, the long SEC schedule will be the test.
All that is needed is a few more years of great recruiting classes, and the Aggies will match Bama and LSU with the same amount of talented depth that it takes to be a perennial power in the SEC.
With Manziel, the Aggies can compete now for the SEC West, but your Aggies have to remain injury free, which is tuff to do in the SEC--week in and week out.
Even if you beat Bama early, the long SEC schedule will be the test.
Posted on 5/3/13 at 11:33 am to UAFanFromNOLA
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i understand that, and that is why I said it is certainly possible. Sumlin was a first year head coach, so I want to see if he can repeat this amount of success before saying his teams can compete year in and year out.
And the point I'm making, is that Sumlin doesn't have to do any of that to prove we are capable. We already are capable, we just have to execute. Last year, if A&M had Alabama's SEC East schedule, they would be hoisting a crystal football. In the 80s and 90s... A&M was a top 10 program. That isn't debatable. A&M hasn't lost anything from that point, and has all the prerequisites to be in that echelon. Whether it does or not is up to a lot of things, but A&M isn't Miss State, it isn't Ole Miss, it isn't Vanderbilt, etc.
Posted on 5/3/13 at 11:34 am to Sheetbend
quote:No one is blind to the possibility. I want to know if Sumlin is as good as everyone thinks he is or is he more like Gene Chizik who is being propped up by a great athlete.
Most fans on this site are blind to the sleeping giant that has just woken up to find itself in the SEC with a Heisman Trophy QB and a great coaching staff.
Posted on 5/3/13 at 11:35 am to Sheetbend
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With Manziel, the Aggies can compete now for the SEC West, but your Aggies have to remain injury free, which is tuff to do in the SEC--week in and week out.
Meh. Cam and Tebow went injury free when they won it all.
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Even if you beat Bama early, the long SEC schedule will be the test.
If we beat Alabama, we can lose one more, and we will still be in Atlanta...
Posted on 5/3/13 at 11:37 am to UAFanFromNOLA
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No one is blind to the possibility. I want to know if Sumlin is as good as everyone thinks he is or is he more like Gene Chizik who is being propped up by a great athlete.
That is fair. But that has to do with Sumlin. All programs need a great coach to be successful. A&M, as a program, is perfectly capable of providing said great coach with what he needs to win.
Posted on 5/3/13 at 11:37 am to TeLeFaWx
I think Ole Miss will give your Aggies all they want this year. That game should be very interesting.
Posted on 5/3/13 at 11:41 am to Sheetbend
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I think Ole Miss will give your Aggies all they want this year. That game should be very interesting.
Meh. We will rock them.
Posted on 5/3/13 at 11:42 am to TeLeFaWx
Right. My problem is that people here are saying A&M is already there when y'all haven't shown anything consistently yet. If you do it again, I will be willing to call Sumlin a great coach and say A&M are ready to compete every year. Until then, I think everyone should reserve judgement. But that's like my opinion man.
Posted on 5/3/13 at 11:46 am to UAFanFromNOLA
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Right. My problem is that people here are saying A&M is already there when y'all haven't shown anything consistently yet. If you do it again, I will be willing to call Sumlin a great coach and say A&M are ready to compete every year. Until then, I think everyone should reserve judgement. But that's like my opinion man.
But he hasn't shown Aggie fans that he is anything other than the real deal. He is recruiting at an elite level, has won some big games, and has the best player in college football. A&M could win it all this year, or they couldn't. It could come down to a few plays, or many, but A&M is in an elite position to be successful for a very long time. I don't get how that isn't obvious, regardless of Sumlin.
Posted on 5/3/13 at 11:56 am to TeLeFaWx
Chizik did all of that too, and we won't find anyone who is going to call him a great coach. Also, your strong point last year was the offense, and you lost Kliff Kingsbury. I want to see how that affects the team. This is why I am taking a more cautious approach.
Yes, you have all of the prerequisites to be great. I understand that. That wasn't up for debate. What many posters are saying is that A&M is already there and ready to compete every year for titles. Being in an "elite position" is one thing and competing consistently is another.
Yes, you have all of the prerequisites to be great. I understand that. That wasn't up for debate. What many posters are saying is that A&M is already there and ready to compete every year for titles. Being in an "elite position" is one thing and competing consistently is another.
Posted on 5/3/13 at 11:58 am to tider04
Oh, I was confused, I thought you were talking about the Les Miles "Hunh?" offense.
n/m
Carry on...
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Carry on...
Posted on 5/3/13 at 11:58 am to UAFanFromNOLA
They lost Kingsbury then blew Oklahoma off the field. People who are hoping for JFF's decline will be sadly mistaken.
Posted on 5/3/13 at 12:01 pm to TeLeFaWx
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TAM could be found cheating and be on NCAA sanctions
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We are not Auburn. Get that shite out of here
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