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Posted on 9/22/23 at 8:51 pm to Steve Rogers
Posted on 9/22/23 at 8:51 pm to Steve Rogers
quote:No one was force, that is a lie. FORCED INTO CHRISTIANITY!!! Its some football players that wanted to be baptized. Get over your hatred of God and those that believe.
You just proved my point. People were forced into Christianity.
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Posted on 9/22/23 at 8:52 pm to Steve Rogers
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So kill people over the time and force them to convert but say the 10 commandments are a good plan? ??
Yes; I think not murdering people or stealing from them is a good plan. You seem to feel differently. You do you.
Posted on 9/22/23 at 8:53 pm to Steve Rogers
quote:Dude, that was THOUSANDS of years ago. Christianity isnt killing anyone
So kill people over the time and force them to convert
quote:List any of the ten commandments that are not good wisdom/guidance. I'll wait
the 10 commandments are a good plan
Posted on 9/22/23 at 8:56 pm to Steve Rogers
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I'm not anti God or even against Religion
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Christianity has literally been forced upon people for 1000 years through violence and conquest
I will just leave this here and depart.
Posted on 9/22/23 at 9:05 pm to DawgsLife
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Out of curiosity...do you consider yourself judging Christians for their beliefs and actions?
No
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Shall I go back and repeat what people have said about Christians and Hugh Freeze in this thread, or can you do it yourself?
Don’t care. Quote me—not them—if you are accusing me.
Also, I’m not claiming the moral high ground here. You are.
Posted on 9/22/23 at 9:09 pm to ChexMix
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Dude, that was THOUSANDS of years ago. Christianity isnt killing anyone
Learned what happened to Native Americans before the 1900s. Wasn't that long ago. Didn't matter then though right?
Posted on 9/22/23 at 9:19 pm to captdalton
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Yes; I think not murdering people or stealing from them is a good plan. You seem to feel differently. You do you.
How do I feel differently?
Literally murdered civilizations the name of Christianity. Your comment back was the 10 commandments weren't a bad idea as if to justify it.
Posted on 9/22/23 at 9:29 pm to FooManChoo
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The moral law of the God of the Bible, Yahweh
Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known man intimately. But all the girls who have not known man intimately, spare for yourselves. Numbers 31:17-18
If a man finds a girl who is a virgin, who is not engaged, and seizes her and lies with her and they are discovered, then the man who lay with her shall give to the girl’s father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall become his wife because he has violated her; he cannot divorce her all his days. Deuteronomy 22:28-29 (NASB)
When a slaveowner strikes a male or female slave with a rod and the slave dies immediately, the owner shall be punished. But if the slave survives a day or two, there is no punishment; for the slave is the owner’s property. Exodus 21 20-21
Now tell me how God is eternal and unchanging, yet somehow these verses don’t apply because they’re from the old testament and we’re under a new covenant. I’ll pass on a new deal with any god that operated this way in his first attempt at a moral law. Thanks, but no thanks.
Posted on 9/22/23 at 9:36 pm to DyeHardDylan
You were doing good till your last sentence, that is victim syndrome the evangelicals love to spout. They would know oppression if it stole the collection plate.
All of this should be on the political board though.
All of this should be on the political board though.
Posted on 9/22/23 at 9:38 pm to Steve Rogers
quote:Now do abortion and the religious Left
Literally murdered civilizations the name of Christianity.
Posted on 9/22/23 at 9:47 pm to jangalang
I wrote a song for Jangalang a while back. Not a nice song. But after seeing his posts the past few months I think we could drink a beer together. No, we definitely don’t agree on everything. But at least I think he is a real person. That is so rare around here now days.
Posted on 9/22/23 at 9:52 pm to ChexMix
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Now do abortion and the religious Left
Doesn't make those things right either. This isn't a contest to who does something worse.
Learn about Inquisitions and when they occurred. Wasn't nearly that long ago. Perhaps you might learn how people were treated.
Posted on 9/22/23 at 10:38 pm to J2thaROC
No…it’s not. Atheism is an affirmative position that God does not exist. Agnosticism is the belief that it is unknown or can’t be known or that their is no evidence of God.
Posted on 9/22/23 at 10:52 pm to Steve Rogers
Yes…the apostles who were willingly killed for a reality they were witnessed to were forced to be Christians.
Christianity in every orthodox form can’t be coerced. The literal reality of the faith is atonement for that which you could not yourself accomplish. It’s a gift that must be received.
Any examples outside of that are abuses of the faith, inconsistent with the tenants of the faith, and would place you in theological opposition to the faith.
You don’t judge a worldview by its abuses. The fact that two devout atheists killed more people in the 20th century than the previous 19 combined is not an indictment on all atheists.
But it’s also not in any way inconsistent with the logical outworking of pure Atheism to kill 70 million people.
Also it’s fantastically amusing for an orthodox atheist to borrow a morality from theism to to point to a perceived immorality of God. The materialist would argue man is but blood and soil, a cosmic accident. He doesn’t even have a category to assign a value to human kind.
Christianity in every orthodox form can’t be coerced. The literal reality of the faith is atonement for that which you could not yourself accomplish. It’s a gift that must be received.
Any examples outside of that are abuses of the faith, inconsistent with the tenants of the faith, and would place you in theological opposition to the faith.
You don’t judge a worldview by its abuses. The fact that two devout atheists killed more people in the 20th century than the previous 19 combined is not an indictment on all atheists.
But it’s also not in any way inconsistent with the logical outworking of pure Atheism to kill 70 million people.
Also it’s fantastically amusing for an orthodox atheist to borrow a morality from theism to to point to a perceived immorality of God. The materialist would argue man is but blood and soil, a cosmic accident. He doesn’t even have a category to assign a value to human kind.
This post was edited on 9/22/23 at 11:11 pm
Posted on 9/22/23 at 10:54 pm to DyeHardDylan
This foundation sounds mad, like something is missing in their lives
Posted on 9/22/23 at 11:02 pm to DyeHardDylan
Two facts you must choose from:
1: Freeze bought hookers for recruits.
2: Freeze bought hookers for himself.
Weird.
1: Freeze bought hookers for recruits.
2: Freeze bought hookers for himself.
Weird.
Posted on 9/23/23 at 6:30 am to Steve Rogers
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Christianity has literally been forced upon people for 1000 years through violence and conquest. It's amazing that people get so bothered when someone complains. Wasn't even widespread until the holy roman empire made it the official religion of empire.
Well, it didn't come into existence until the Roman Empire, so.....I think it was during Nero's reign. Nero tried to blame the Christians for the fire that consumed Rome and used to kill Christians, put them on pikes, cover them with tar and set them on fire lining the streets as torches.
I mean, government and philosophies of government has been forced upon people long before Christianity came into existence, too. Do away with government? People like to point fingers at religion and forget that whatever deficiencies religion might have you can find those same deficiencies in almost every other area of life.
Did you hear about the case of the woman in England who was arrested for praying silently outside of an abortion clinic?
Not talking to people. Not even speaking about abortion to anybody......silently praying.
Posted on 9/23/23 at 6:36 am to ecb
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All of this should be on the political board though.
No doubt. But when you take in the overall trolling that goes on on this board it is good sometimes to have a serious thread off topic, as long as the topic does not become the norm for the board.
I have been surprised and pleased that as a whole the discussion has been sincere and civil from both sides. Sometimes this what is needed to learn.
Posted on 9/23/23 at 6:40 am to Steve Rogers
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I'm not anti God or even against Religion. I don't care what you do but to act like Christianity isn't pushed in everyone's face in the south is ridiculous.
I'll bite. How? Can you give some examples? I mean real examples of how it has been pushed in your face?
quote:Maybe. When is the last time people have witnessed to you? Nobody seems to want to answer the question. Give us examples of 1000 Christians calling out to God publicly.
f there were 3000 people calling
to Allah in the open people in the would lose their shite. There would be 1000 threads.
People keep saying how "in your face" Christians are, but no one seems to be able to give an example of it. And I don't mean a single example of one person. I mean how there are 1000 people calling out to God in the open.
Posted on 9/23/23 at 6:44 am to DawgsLife
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When is the last time people have witnessed to you?
Wrong question - when was the last time someone tried to enforce their religious beliefs through legislation?
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