re: The “Freedom From Religion Foundation” warns Auburn University

"Colorado Freedom From Religion Foundation" also went after Deion Sanders, and the media won't report that one because the rich white atheist leftists need to use Deion for a little longer until he tells them to shove their atheistic psychopathic zeal up their fagot fricking asses

Hope AU tells them to kick rocks. Love to see all the faith stories coming out of a college campus, especially with all the craziness being shoved down college kid's throats these days.

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Love to see all the faith stories coming out of a college campus, especially with all the craziness being shoved down college kid's throats these days.

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“Go to college to get an education” - parents

“Colleges are indoctrinating our children with craziness!!!!” - also parents

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If religious people try to convert others, they're pushing their beliefs in your face.

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Very true

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If they don't evangelize, it's thrown in their faces that they aren't even true believers because they don't try to tell people the good news.

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No non-believer should care at all about how true your belief is…and even if they do, you shouldn’t care because it’s private. The reality is that you aren’t judged by “others” on your evangelism; you are judged by your religious peers.

No one should care if you are religious, but I’ll admit to being annoyed when people show up at my door or yell at me from street corners (here’s looking at you, Main Street, Columbia, SC).

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frick off, he is a hypocrite like most bible thumping people are.

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Sure he is. Just like everybody else in the world. Can you think of someone who has never been a hypocrite?

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Do your good deeds. praying and worshiping in private,

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It seems it was done in private. Nobody was forced to go or witness it if they did not have a desire to do so. Nobody was forced to see it.

If that was the motivation you are correct. How do you know that was the motivation? Nobody on this board would have had any idea this happened if the Freedom From Religion group had not made it an issue.

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separation of state and church.

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That doesn’t mean what you think it does. The original intent was that government could not mandate one form of religion as the ‘official’ religion of the country. Not that religion has no place in any institution the government has. If that were true, religion wouldn’t be allowed in prisons.

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Don’t try to bring it to others because you “know better.”

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We have an entire multi-billion dollar industry that does exactly that advertising products. If at any point in your life you have suggested a product, or a place to vacation or a place to eat etc, then you are just as guilty of proselytizing. We also have the same attitude with sports fandom. Let's face it. We all think we "know better" by being fans of the teams we chose. Recommend a new TV show? Place to fish? Restaurant?

Yes, I get that much of the time we are passing on requested recommendations. But a lot of the time we are telling people about TV, restaurants etc just because we like to share something or an experience that we feel could enhance someone's life.

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Believe what you want, but don’t sit in judgement of me based upon your personal beliefs and morality.

If I’m breaking a law, fine. By living here I’ve signed up for those. Your personal opinion on my actions based upon YOUR beliefs? GTFOH

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I can understand the point you're making and I absolutely understand that no one likes to be told that they're wrong. I do think Christians have an obligation to be thoughtful and particular about their choice of words and means of delivery when sharing the gospel with others. There's a balance to be struck there because bashing people into a forced submission to Christianity is not at all the spirit of the gospel but watering down the standards behind your faith as to not offend anyone isn't helpful either.


Certainly, there are buzzwords that will illicit a negative or defensive response from most people. Perhaps rather than opening with a statement that you have a cancer inside you, i'd ask a few questions to get to know a person. I think all of us can recognize that we are all incredibly flawed individuals. We all have done things that we swore we wouldn't. We've not done things that we knew in our hearts was the right thing to do. We have let our emotions get the best of us and spoke or treated people in a manner that we wouldn't wish to be treated ourselves. We've all been rude, arrogant, deceitful, hurtful and cruel at some point along the way. Albeit, yes, some moreso than others, but we have all fallen short of even man made morality benchmarks. Clearly, there is indeed something fundmentally wrong with us all.


You used the term judgment there and it's an intereting phrase that requires an agreement on definition before a conversation can continue. What is judgement? Or better yet, what is not judgement? What is a loving act meant to guide and enlighten another person and what is meant to tear down and crush another person?


Lastly, we all to some degree force our morality on others, religious or not. The conundrum becomes rooted in morality itself or rather the validity of that morality. Is it, for example, moral to attempt to prevent someone from doing something deemed immoral by you but not inherently immoral to them? How do we decide what is moral and what isn't moral? Is it simple majority rule? What is our benchmark for how we determine which moral standard has validity and which does not? At some point, we come to the conclusion that it is inexcapable that humans beings will enforce morality on other people that in some cases do not agree.