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The Big 6 of each P5 Conference
Posted on 8/8/19 at 2:36 pm
Posted on 8/8/19 at 2:36 pm
As we all know here, we have the big 6 in the SEC. As of right now, those 6 teams are Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, LSU, and Tennessee. But if we look at the other conferences I wouldn’t say that there are as much of a clear cut Big 6 as the SEC has. But this is what I have decided:
ACC
Clemson
Florida State
Miami
Virginia Tech
Georgia Tech
Pittsburgh (sucked recently, but they were the shite during WWI and won a natty in 1976)
Big 12
Oklahoma
Texas
West Virginia
Solid 3 there but who comes next? Okie State? Texas Tech? Neither of them are really that outstanding historically and are pretty even on paper as far as their all time records go. Then I guess you would have to put TCU next but they struggled for years until LaDainian Tomlinson. What a shitty conference!
Big Ten
Michigan
Ohio State
Nebraska
Penn State
Michigan State
Wisconsin
Pretty clear cut here.
PAC 12
Washington
Oregon
USC
Colorado
The last two spots are up for grabs between Cal, Stanford, Arizona State, and UCLA. ASU has the highest winning percentage, Stanford has been a top 25 even top 15 team for the past 8 or 9 years, Cal had success in the olden days, and UCLA has been pretty consistently meh for eternity. Don’t know who to give it to here.
What say the rant? Btw I put the teams mostly in random order.
ACC
Clemson
Florida State
Miami
Virginia Tech
Georgia Tech
Pittsburgh (sucked recently, but they were the shite during WWI and won a natty in 1976)
Big 12
Oklahoma
Texas
West Virginia
Solid 3 there but who comes next? Okie State? Texas Tech? Neither of them are really that outstanding historically and are pretty even on paper as far as their all time records go. Then I guess you would have to put TCU next but they struggled for years until LaDainian Tomlinson. What a shitty conference!
Big Ten
Michigan
Ohio State
Nebraska
Penn State
Michigan State
Wisconsin
Pretty clear cut here.
PAC 12
Washington
Oregon
USC
Colorado
The last two spots are up for grabs between Cal, Stanford, Arizona State, and UCLA. ASU has the highest winning percentage, Stanford has been a top 25 even top 15 team for the past 8 or 9 years, Cal had success in the olden days, and UCLA has been pretty consistently meh for eternity. Don’t know who to give it to here.
What say the rant? Btw I put the teams mostly in random order.
This post was edited on 8/8/19 at 2:57 pm
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Posted on 8/8/19 at 2:42 pm to lsudave1
Looks good to me.
I would say Tennessee has taken quite a tumble, but who replaces them? Nobody.
I would say Tennessee has taken quite a tumble, but who replaces them? Nobody.
This post was edited on 8/8/19 at 2:43 pm
Posted on 8/8/19 at 2:45 pm to KaiserSoze99
Y’all if do if y’all can actually put it together for once
Posted on 8/8/19 at 2:46 pm to lsudave1
quote:hmmmmm
West Virginia
Ya no. Mizzou has a better program (arguably) than wvu
Posted on 8/8/19 at 2:48 pm to lsudave1
Big12>ACC
Pac12>ACC
The no. 2 ACC team didn't go to a bowl. TCU and Baylor has had recent success. Pac12 has Stanford and Utah with recent success. Crap list.
Pac12>ACC
The no. 2 ACC team didn't go to a bowl. TCU and Baylor has had recent success. Pac12 has Stanford and Utah with recent success. Crap list.
Posted on 8/8/19 at 2:50 pm to lsudave1
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Y’all if do if y’all can actually put it together for once
That's a big fat if.
Posted on 8/8/19 at 2:52 pm to KaiserSoze99
We’re still second in the SEC historically in a lot of all time stats, though the gap has narrowed a lot over the last decade. It would take probably at least two more decades as bad as the last one for our program stats to dip to the point that we wouldn’t warrant Big 6 inclusion. Hell, we still rank 12th in the FBS in alltime win% even after basically a decade of .500 ball.
Among OG SEC teams, the gap between 6 and 7 is HUGE. There’s no guarantee that we’ll be “back” in the near future, and we could conceivably fall to the 6th spot in a decade, but it would be hard to fall any farther.
Among OG SEC teams, the gap between 6 and 7 is HUGE. There’s no guarantee that we’ll be “back” in the near future, and we could conceivably fall to the 6th spot in a decade, but it would be hard to fall any farther.
This post was edited on 8/8/19 at 3:00 pm
Posted on 8/8/19 at 2:55 pm to rockytop627
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We’re still second in the SEC historically in a lot of all time stats, though the gap has narrowed a lot over the last decade. It would take probably at least two more decades as bad as the last one for our program stats to dip to the point that we wouldn’t warrant Big 6 inclusion.
Yeah, I agree. A&M could win the natty and it still wouldn't unseat Tenn. without a lot more.
Posted on 8/8/19 at 2:55 pm to rebelrouser
Yeah but you can’t sit here and tell me that Stanford and Utah have better all time programs than UCLA or Arizona State going off historical results. If we’re using standards based off recent success only then Tennessee is not in the SEC Big 6, which is a travesty because they historically have a very good program.
Posted on 8/8/19 at 2:56 pm to lsudave1
Pitt and West Virginia should be automatically excluded. No former member of the Big East can be a "big". You make fun of the Big 12, but you list Nebraska and Colorado elsewhere, and surely A&M would be one of their "bigs" had they not left, and maybe even Missouri (but Iowa not so much).
Posted on 8/8/19 at 2:57 pm to muletide
West Virginia gets an awful lot of national respect for really no reason.
Hope that holds when we stomp them this year
Hope that holds when we stomp them this year
Posted on 8/8/19 at 3:04 pm to lsudave1
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Yeah but you can’t sit here and tell me that Stanford and Utah have better all time programs than UCLA or Arizona State going off historical results. If we’re using standards based off recent success only then Tennessee is not in the SEC Big 6, which is a travesty because they historically have a very good program.
And that's where I look to see if there is another team to step in. There is not, at least not right now.
So, the SEC would be a big 5 conference, until somebody else steps up.
Posted on 8/8/19 at 3:06 pm to KaiserSoze99
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Yeah, I agree. A&M could win the natty and it still wouldn't unseat Tenn. without a lot more.
Y’all are honestly the only team in the league with any realistic shot to pass us or any other Big 6 team up, but even if you do, a lot of people will be reluctant to lump you in because you’ve only been in the league 7 years now.
Posted on 8/8/19 at 3:24 pm to lsudave1
My theory is historically every conference besides the SEC were Big 2 conferences.
USC
UCLA
Arkansas
Texas
Nebraska
Oklahoma
Michigan
Ohio State
There’s exceptions of course depending on the time period.
But my point is, the SEC has been dominant from top to bottom for decades.
It took the BCS to prove it.
USC
UCLA
Arkansas
Texas
Nebraska
Oklahoma
Michigan
Ohio State
There’s exceptions of course depending on the time period.
But my point is, the SEC has been dominant from top to bottom for decades.
It took the BCS to prove it.
Posted on 8/8/19 at 3:26 pm to lsudave1
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Yeah but you can’t sit here and tell me that Stanford and Utah have better all time programs than UCLA or Arizona State going off historical results. If we’re using standards based off recent success only then Tennessee is not in the SEC Big 6, which is a travesty because they historically have a very good program.
I don’t think there’s any question that Stanford outstrips ASU historically and probably outstrips UCLA as well. They have national titles, a great history of producing superb players and coaches (not many schools can match Pop Warner, Bill Walsh, and Jim Harbaugh), third all time in Rose Bowl appearances (behind just SC and Michigan), and so on. They’ve had periods where they’ve sucked, and when they suck, they really suck, but they have accomplished a lot in the sport.
PAC 12 big six goes like this:
USC
Washington
Colorado
Stanford
UCLA
Oregon
Posted on 8/8/19 at 3:39 pm to lsudave1
Interesting only in that the SEC is the only P5 conference whose Big 6 all have been members for more than a decade (in fact, since the league's inception in 1933).
ACC: Pitt (joined 2013)
Big 12: West Virginia (joined 2012)
Big Ten: Nebraska (joined 2011)
PAC 12: Colorado (joined 2011)
In fact, the overwhelming majority of each of those school's major gridiron achievements came long before they joined their respective conferences.
ACC: Pitt (joined 2013)
Big 12: West Virginia (joined 2012)
Big Ten: Nebraska (joined 2011)
PAC 12: Colorado (joined 2011)
In fact, the overwhelming majority of each of those school's major gridiron achievements came long before they joined their respective conferences.
Posted on 8/8/19 at 3:43 pm to rockytop627
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Y’all are honestly the only team in the league with any realistic shot to pass us or any other Big 6 team up, but even if you do, a lot of people will be reluctant to lump you in because you’ve only been in the league 7 years now.
Yeah, I agree. Maybe there could be an expansion for a "Big 7" or something, but it would take a lot of A&M success and a lot of Tenn failure for at least 2 decades for any real "Big 6" consideration, in my opinion.
This post was edited on 8/8/19 at 3:44 pm
Posted on 8/8/19 at 3:55 pm to lsudave1
Hey...a thread with nice civil discussion. Congrats, sir, and all involved! 
Posted on 8/8/19 at 4:11 pm to lsudave1
KState, Oklahoma state, and TCU are all more accomplished in football than Michigan state, Colorado, Pitt, Oregon, Ga Tech and on par with plenty others on that list. What a fricking clown.
This post was edited on 8/8/19 at 4:15 pm
Posted on 8/8/19 at 4:13 pm to Realistic Ag
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Hey...a thread with nice civil discussion. Congrats, sir, and all involved!
You spoke too soon.
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KState, Oklahoma state, and TCU are all more accomplished in football than Texas A&M....
--Aggsessed Boomer00
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