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Posted on 5/10/21 at 5:12 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Posted on 5/10/21 at 5:12 pm to SummerOfGeorge
You posted: He won't have the best numbers, though. Transitioning to a new system, patchwork O-line, Nix, lack of scary receivers.
Guy is gonna get beat to a pulp.
Their talent level wasn't really bad, it was the scheme they ran and most importantly the coach and S&C they received. The OL will be improved this year and will not get pushed around as easily as they have been the last 3 years. Gus wanted his OL to be able to run the HUNH Offense, but ditched it three years ago.
I said it last year because I believed that Morris would break away from Gus's Offense and improve the passing system. That did not happen and Nix was blamed for most of the issues that were out of his hands.
If you want to talk AU Defense and Steele last year, that is another long subject. Remember AU was 6-4 with the most dysfunctional Coaching Staff in CF.
Guy is gonna get beat to a pulp.
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Auburn's OL talent is really, really bad.
Their talent level wasn't really bad, it was the scheme they ran and most importantly the coach and S&C they received. The OL will be improved this year and will not get pushed around as easily as they have been the last 3 years. Gus wanted his OL to be able to run the HUNH Offense, but ditched it three years ago.
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Same for Nix’s production
Except you said this before last year, too. So, we'll see.
I said it last year because I believed that Morris would break away from Gus's Offense and improve the passing system. That did not happen and Nix was blamed for most of the issues that were out of his hands.
If you want to talk AU Defense and Steele last year, that is another long subject. Remember AU was 6-4 with the most dysfunctional Coaching Staff in CF.
This post was edited on 5/10/21 at 5:14 pm
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Posted on 5/10/21 at 5:16 pm to Irons Puppet
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He won't have the best numbers, though
Yes, he won't have the best numbers in the SEC. That doesn't mean he will get worse or perform worse than last year.
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Their talent level wasn't really bad
Disagree, but we'll find out I guess.
This post was edited on 5/10/21 at 5:17 pm
Posted on 5/10/21 at 5:24 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Yes, he won't have the best numbers in the SEC. That doesn't mean he will get worse or perform worse than last year.
He got a lot of his numbers with the OL being pushed around and most of his yards after contact. He did that without a real passing threat from Gus/Morris passing game. Nix has shown an ability to throw the ball even with only one primary WR in Morris's scheme. He promised to use the TE, but maybe threw to him 10 times all year. WR routes were not use to take advantage of Williams catching ability or Schwartz's speed.
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heir talent level wasn't really bad
Disagree, but we'll find out I guess.
Look at the 2019 IB, they held their own pretty well and it was almost the same OL. Again, look at the OL last year and how they look this Spring. CBH saw from day one that AU need to change directions with S&C, amazed Gus got away with it as long as he did.
This post was edited on 5/10/21 at 5:26 pm
Posted on 5/10/21 at 5:34 pm to Irons Puppet
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Look at the 2019 IB, they held their own pretty well and it was almost the same OL
Auburn's OL in 2019 vs Alabama was
Nick Brahms
Mike Horton (NFL)
Marquel Harrell (NFL)
Jack Driscoll (NFL)
Prince Tega Wanogho (NFL)
Almost the same OL as what? 1 of those guys is still on the roster.
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Again, look at the OL last year and how they look this Spring. CBH saw from day one that AU need to change directions with S&C, amazed Gus got away with it as long as he did.
I mean, we'll see. I don't think Auburn's current offensive line is very talented. They'll either prove to be or won't prove to be.
This post was edited on 5/10/21 at 5:35 pm
Posted on 5/10/21 at 5:36 pm to Scoper
Bijan Robinson
Posted on 5/10/21 at 5:43 pm to SummerOfGeorge
If you are talking about the 2020 game, in which a lot of those guys who will start on the OL for Auburn next year actually did play, they did not run the ball at all.
Up until the score was 42-6 and Alabama cleared the bench, Auburn's RBs ran 19 times for 51 yards (2.68 YPA). Their longest run of the day was 6 yards.
The places I've looked seem to see the 2021 starters as
LT - Austin Troxell or Alec Jackson
LG - Tashawn Manning
C - Nick Brahms
RG - Keiondre Jones
RT - Brodarius Hamm
The guys with the most snaps vs Alabama in 2020
LT - Austin Troxell
LG - Tashawn Manning
C - Nick Brahms
RG - Keiondre Jones
RT - Brodarius Hamm
So, maybe they changed their bodies, got a lot better and the system fits them like a glove. I dunno. I know the players I saw last year against Alabama (that seemingly are going to start this year) were not good at all.
Up until the score was 42-6 and Alabama cleared the bench, Auburn's RBs ran 19 times for 51 yards (2.68 YPA). Their longest run of the day was 6 yards.
The places I've looked seem to see the 2021 starters as
LT - Austin Troxell or Alec Jackson
LG - Tashawn Manning
C - Nick Brahms
RG - Keiondre Jones
RT - Brodarius Hamm
The guys with the most snaps vs Alabama in 2020
LT - Austin Troxell
LG - Tashawn Manning
C - Nick Brahms
RG - Keiondre Jones
RT - Brodarius Hamm
So, maybe they changed their bodies, got a lot better and the system fits them like a glove. I dunno. I know the players I saw last year against Alabama (that seemingly are going to start this year) were not good at all.
This post was edited on 5/10/21 at 5:48 pm
Posted on 5/10/21 at 5:47 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Auburn's OL in 2019 vs Alabama was
Nick Brahms
Mike Horton (NFL)
Marquel Harrell (NFL)
Jack Driscoll (NFL)
Prince Tega Wanogho (NFL)
Same leve of play. Watched every snap.
Posted on 5/10/21 at 5:48 pm to Irons Puppet
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Same leve of play. Watched every snap.
You know, we could actually look at the players who will be playing for Auburn on the OL next year........because they played last year. I dunno, crazy concept. Maybe they are all much, much better in 2021 in a better scheme with better coaching and great S&C. That's possible.
But those same players last year did not show talent and flat out just weren't very good.
This post was edited on 5/10/21 at 5:50 pm
Posted on 5/10/21 at 5:53 pm to SummerOfGeorge
They were physically manhandled and yet Tank still was effective. The same for 2019, yet Whitlow was still high in the SECcin rushing. This years OL is actually higher ranked out of HS than 2019. Now they are more physically able to play in the SEC.
P.s How did those OL do in the NFL last year?
P.s How did those OL do in the NFL last year?
Posted on 5/10/21 at 5:56 pm to Irons Puppet
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They were physically manhandled and yet Tank still was effective. The same for 2019, yet Whitlow was still high in the SECcin rushing.
Yes, Gus' teams generally ran the ball relatively well and on a lot of carries.
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P.s How did those OL do in the NFL last year?
I have absolutely no clue. Probably not real well, they weren't great players. Alabama was a pretty poor run defense in 2019, so pushing them around wasn't exactly a banner accomplishment.
Alabama wasn't a great run defense in 2020 either, so the fact that Auburn's 2021 offensive line had absolutely zero success against them gives a pretty good summary of how bad they were.
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yet Tank still was effective
In general over the season? Yea he was, because he's a great back. I'd take him over any back in the league, like I said earlier.
The offensive line is bad, though.
This post was edited on 5/10/21 at 5:57 pm
Posted on 5/10/21 at 6:01 pm to SummerOfGeorge
And yet Au was 6-4. How does that happen. It wasn’t because of Steele’s D.
Posted on 5/10/21 at 6:02 pm to Scoper
Kerryon Johnson II
Posted on 5/10/21 at 6:03 pm to Irons Puppet
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And yet Au was 6-4. How does that happen. It wasn’t because of Steele’s D.
Because Auburn wasn't a terrible football team, just a very average one?
Average overall offense (#8)
Average rush offense (#5)
Bad passing offense (#11)
Average overall defense (#6)
Average pass defense (#7)
Average rush defense (#6)
This post was edited on 5/10/21 at 6:09 pm
Posted on 5/10/21 at 6:10 pm to SummerOfGeorge
You were saying they had a terrible OL, bad QB and underused WR. I guess you are saying the D carried them? Think before you respond.
Posted on 5/10/21 at 6:13 pm to Irons Puppet
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terrible OL
Correct
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bad QB
Correct
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underused WR
Completely made up by you for some reason. Haven't mentioned Auburn's receivers once.
I also said - this being the 3rd time - that I'd take Tank Bigsby over any other back in the SEC for 2021.
So, add-in, "great RB".
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I guess you are saying the D carried them?
Nobody carried them. They were average on offense and average on defense. They beat average/bad teams (Arkansas, Kentucky, Ole Miss, LSU, Tennessee, MSU), lost to good teams (Alabama, Georgia, A&M, Northwestern) and then had an inexcusable loss to a terrible team (South Carolina).
They were just.......average.
This post was edited on 5/10/21 at 6:14 pm
Posted on 5/10/21 at 6:16 pm to paperwasp
You may be forgetting Chris Rodriguez at UK...
Posted on 5/10/21 at 6:18 pm to SummerOfGeorge
underused WR
Completely made up by you for some reason
Only true statement and I threw that in.
With the exception of Bama and UGA , the games were not decided until late in the 4th Quarter. I know the SEC sucked as a whole year, but they league had AVERAGE teams from top to bottom.
Completely made up by you for some reason
Only true statement and I threw that in.
With the exception of Bama and UGA , the games were not decided until late in the 4th Quarter. I know the SEC sucked as a whole year, but they league had AVERAGE teams from top to bottom.
Posted on 5/10/21 at 6:20 pm to Scoper
That’s weird. He does not look like Jahmyr Gibbs.
Posted on 5/10/21 at 6:21 pm to Irons Puppet
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Only true statement and I threw that in.
Well, I didn't say it and you attributed it to me.
Auburn's WRs should have been more productive, but as you know your scheme for them sucked and the QB was erratic (due to his doing as well as the constant pressure). Losing those guys (Williams and Schwartz especially) the year that Auburn finally gets an offensive system with some route tree stuff is a kick in the pants.
Are you telling me that the Auburn OL and QB last year weren't bad? Really?
This post was edited on 5/10/21 at 6:22 pm
Posted on 5/10/21 at 6:23 pm to SummerOfGeorge
He's an Auburn fan. Meaning he's very used to 4 loss seasons. So no, in his opinion they weren't terrible 
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