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re: The actual text of the text message

Posted on 2/24/23 at 3:00 pm to
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
27852 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 3:00 pm to
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No, you are speculating on what you think you know.


Everybody is

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Unless you are privy to the video evidence or the statements taken by the police and the DA's office.


And I doubt a single fan has had access to anything other than what has been made public.
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
13360 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 3:08 pm to
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He saw the text. Why isn't he being charged? THAT is the scandal in all of this.


You have proof he did? You’re just speculating off of a logic game instead of actual statements, physical evidence, and witnesses, cmon fake message board lawyer you can do better than that.

Assuming this can be proven, you have to prove beyond reasonable doubt that BM knew about the prior verbal altercation before the text, which he did not. You have to prove that he saw the gun or handled it, which he did not. You have to prove that his intent was to bring the gun to Miles to commit a crime which he did not. You have to prove all these things beyond a reasonable doubt just to prove intent, not even close to proving actus reus. Gimme a break and I’m the farthest thing from a Bama fan.
This post was edited on 2/24/23 at 3:10 pm
Posted by Lg
Hayden, Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
7827 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 3:11 pm to
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Everybody is


But the side that is speculating that he is innocent of any crime has the evidence on it's side. Otherwise Miller would have been charged.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54691 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 3:12 pm to
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you have to prove beyond reasonable doubt that BM knew about the prior verbal altercation before the text
no you don’t

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which he did not.
How can you know this?

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You have to prove that he saw the gun or handled it
no you don’t

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which he did not.
how can you know this?

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You have to prove that his intent was to bring the gun to Miles to commit a crime
close, I’ll give you this one

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which he did not.
how can you know this?

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not even close to proving actus reus.
actus reus is easy if you prove the mens rea

This post was edited on 2/24/23 at 3:15 pm
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
13360 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 3:16 pm to
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no you don’t


that goes to intent, fake message board lawyer

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no you don’t


also goes to intent and actus reus

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actually reus is easy if you prove the mens rea


I'll give you this but your responses cast doubt on your credibility to speak about this next to the fact you rep Bama's rival

Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
13360 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 3:17 pm to
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How can you know this?


Because his lawyer said it publicly, man you message board fake lawyers stink
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54691 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 3:18 pm to
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that goes to intent, fake message board lawyer
It isn’t required to prove intent that he knew about the verbal altercation. I hope your are a fake lawyer instead of a real one. His knowledge of the altercation certainly would be a piece of evidence that could help prove intent, but it is not required.
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
13360 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 3:18 pm to
also this

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The text does not even tell Miller that Miles wants him to do anything.

It is just a declarative statement of "I need my joint"

You have to walk the whole jury through all of the context just to get them through the interpretation and convince them beyond all reasonable doubt that "I need my joint" means "My gun is in your car please bring it to me"

Then even if Miles text was "My gun is in your car please bring it to me" they then have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that "rl guy out here fakin" means that "I intend to use it to commit a crime." and not just that he wants it because he feels unsafe and has gotten into an argument or whatever.


So you have more bullshite you want to disseminate or you want to accept your L and move on?
Posted by Lg
Hayden, Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
7827 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 3:19 pm to
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Because his lawyer said it publicly,


His lawyer lied. The DA is withholding evidence. This is all an elaborate cover up to most on this board.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54691 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 3:20 pm to
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Because his lawyer said it publicly
Well if his lawyer said he didn’t look at or handle the gun, all is well. Case closed.
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
13360 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 3:21 pm to
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It isn’t required to prove intent that he knew about the verbal altercation.


Yes it does because of the context

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I hope your are a fake lawyer instead of a real one.


I could say the same about you because of the bullshite you just said

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His knowledge of the altercation certainly would be a piece of evidence that could help prove intent, but it is not required.


Without it, intent becomes increasingly harder to prove but you claim to know all this legal knowledge, why don't you charge BM with accomplice liability and see how that works out for you? This fake message board lawyering by you people is pathetic.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54691 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 3:22 pm to
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you have more bullshite you want to disseminate
Quote my bullshite and I’ll gladly respond. You are the one providing incorrect legal standards here.

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why don't you charge BM with accomplice liability and see how that works out for you?


How would that work?
This post was edited on 2/24/23 at 3:24 pm
Posted by Lg
Hayden, Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
7827 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 3:23 pm to
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Well if his lawyer said he didn’t look at or handle the gun, all is well.


So if Miles got in the car with the gun in his waist band and slid the gun under the clothes before he exited the car at the club, is it not reasonable to assume that Miller never saw or touched the gun like his lawyer claimed?
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
13360 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 3:24 pm to
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You are the one providing incorrect legal standards here.


Source that says I'm wrong? Man stfu with iNcOrReCt LeGaL sTaNdaRdS

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Quote my bull shite and I’ll gladly respond.


I've already done that, thanks Mickey Mouse
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
13360 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 3:25 pm to
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How would that work?


You're the one responding to my posts, you must feel pretty confident about it
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
13360 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 3:26 pm to
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So if Miles got in the car with the gun in his waist band and slid the gun under the clothes before he exited the car at the club, is it not reasonable to assume that Miller never saw or touched the gun like his lawyer claimed?


You have proof other than Miller's statement through his lawyer? and there's no evidence of obstruction by him because I deal in FACTS here bro not speculation or innuendo
This post was edited on 2/24/23 at 3:27 pm
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54691 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 3:27 pm to
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if Miles got in the car with the gun in his waist band and slid the gun under the clothes before he exited the car at the club, is it not reasonable to assume that Miller never saw or touched the gun like his lawyer claimed?
Yes, if that were to happen and Miller never discussed the gun, that is reasonable.

Unlike the law school drop out’s contention, Miller seeing or handling the gun is not required for charges or conviction.
Posted by Slackaveli
Fayetteville
Member since Jul 2017
15269 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 3:27 pm to
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Prove it.
release his texts... what was his reply to "bring me my point" which ne NEVER MENTIONS is already in Brandon's car (bc Brandon obviously already knew that).

I bet it's something like "bet"
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
13360 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 3:28 pm to
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Yes, if that were to happen and Miller never discussed the gun, that is reasonable.

Unlike the law school drop out’s contention, Miller seeing or handling the gun is not required for charges or conviction.



That's if you can prove he even saw the text. Even granting that, you have to prove what the texts actually mean to a jury beyond a reasonable doubt which ain't gonna be easy bro.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54691 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 3:28 pm to
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you must feel pretty confident about it
So you haven’t read my posts? Start there. I have stated that proving a charge against Miller beyond a reasonable doubt based on what is publicly available would be questionable.
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