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re: Texas/OU SEC Reality check 2024, The Beginning

Posted on 8/18/24 at 2:34 pm to
Posted by SoonerKA1999
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Posted on 8/18/24 at 2:34 pm to
Posted by AulderMagee
Dallas
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Posted on 8/18/24 at 4:32 pm to
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Texas or OU win in their first year in SEC competition, they had easy SEC schedules. If they don't win, it was the "Grind of the SEC" that did them in.


Wrong. Texas has an easy schedule. We already know that. OU's schedule is pretty stout.

These are well discussed knowns already, here before the season even starts.

So if Texas blows everyone out, we will still say that yes, you had an easy schedule. Because you do.

If OU blows everyone out, we will not say that yes, they had an easy schedule. Because they don't.

Mmmkay, princess?
Posted by Mexican Martini
Member since Aug 2024
276 posts
Posted on 8/18/24 at 4:50 pm to
Before Texas is in the SEC: There is no such thing as an easy SEC schedule
Texas enters the SEC: Texas has an easy SEC schedule.
So stupid. A&M and most SEC schools have played more FCS schools in the last 5 years than Texas has ever played in over 100 years. I thought that was because the SEC was so tough??
Posted by AulderMagee
Dallas
Member since Mar 2024
3087 posts
Posted on 8/19/24 at 4:48 am to
Wrong again.

Georgia had an easy schedule last year. It was said before the season started, during the season and after the season ended. Everyone knew it, everyone said it.

So yeah, you're wrong.
Posted by 1801
Charleston
Member since Aug 2012
7844 posts
Posted on 8/19/24 at 7:38 am to
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Before Texas is in the SEC: There is no such thing as an easy SEC schedule
Texas enters the SEC: Texas has an easy SEC schedule.
Texas has a very easy schedule thanks to a Dallas site game and *somehow* being awarded a road game in Nashville year 1 - add in the road game in College Station to end the year and Texas only leaves the state of Texas for 2 SEC road games - Fayetteville & Nashville -

that could have never happened before in the SEC until Texas was added and the schedules had to be adjusted -

Cocktail Party is the only non-campus SEC game and Florida doesn't have another in-state SEC foe so even in years Florida is the road team in the Jax - they still have to play 3 other SEC games outside of the state of Florida - including Nashville -

Oklahoma only has 3 SEC home games in Norman year 1 SEC thanks to the Dallas game vs Texas -

Texas will understand quickly what it is to be on the road in this conference when UTA is the 'home' team in Dallas every other year and doesn't get to play in Nashville in the same season - it just won't be 2024 -
Posted by mthorn2
Planet Louisiana
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 8/19/24 at 10:18 am to
No matter how either team plays out....Texas's schedule is cupcake and OU has a legit SEC schedule. 10win OU team supersedes 10win Texas team.
Posted by redfishfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
4976 posts
Posted on 8/19/24 at 11:32 am to
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Texas 34
Alabama 24

AT Bryant Denny

Next.


The fact yall keep relying on this as a reason why the SEC won't be a major challenge shows us that you are missing the point entirely. It's not about 1 game. You'll learn. No sense in trying to get you to understand when you've been in the softest league in the country outside of the Pac 12.
Posted by TideFaninFl
On the space coast
Member since Oct 2017
6768 posts
Posted on 8/19/24 at 12:35 pm to
The SEC has won double digit NCs in the last 20+ years

In fact since the 1900's an SEC (or future SEC) has won at least 1 NC per decade

The reason why so many teams has FCS opponents is to try and make the schedule a bit easier. However some of the FCS teams themselves were top opponents (many went to the FCS playoffs)

f you look the Big 12 had many of the teams with the most losses in college football, while the SEC had 5 of the top 13 teams in wins.
Posted by MtVernon
Member since Jul 2024
6550 posts
Posted on 8/19/24 at 12:59 pm to
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The fact yall keep relying on this as a reason why the SEC won't be a major challenge shows us that you are missing the point entirely.


No, it just means the point has to make sense. You can't just say something and run away without it adding up.

It doesn't add up. We kept Bama from playing for the NC.

In terms of the rest of the SEC, mid-level Big XII has the W-L over mid-level SEC, so no point there either.

Playing Miss State is no different than playing Baylor. Playing Arkansas is less than playing Ok State. Playing Vanderbilt is less than playing Texas Tech.

So let's just play the games and see what excuses will come from it, because that dog don't hunt.
Posted by TideFaninFl
On the space coast
Member since Oct 2017
6768 posts
Posted on 8/19/24 at 1:10 pm to
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It doesn't add up. We kept Bama from playing for the NC.



Michigan did that, barely


quote:

In terms of the rest of the SEC, mid-level Big XII has the W-L over mid-level SEC, so no point there either.


Not sure what you mean as midlevel SEC teams are but the SEC has 6 teams that have won the NC recently (within the last 25 years), Tennessee, Florida, Georgia, Alabama, Auburn, LSU, with most of those either winning multiple titles or playing in multiple title games.

quote:

Playing Miss State is no different than playing Baylor. Playing Arkansas is less than playing Ok State. Playing Vanderbilt is less than playing Texas Tech.


Of those team you mentioned the only one would be Vanderbilt as you will find out soon enough.







Posted by redfishfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
4976 posts
Posted on 8/19/24 at 2:37 pm to
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No, it just means the point has to make sense. You can't just say something and run away without it adding up.

It doesn't add up. We kept Bama from playing for the NC.

In terms of the rest of the SEC, mid-level Big XII has the W-L over mid-level SEC, so no point there either.

Playing Miss State is no different than playing Baylor. Playing Arkansas is less than playing Ok State. Playing Vanderbilt is less than playing Texas Tech.

So let's just play the games and see what excuses will come from it, because that dog don't hunt.



Your Arky to Ok state comparisons make no sense.

Ok State was the 2/3 best team in the Big 12 last year. Arky was the 12/13 best team in the SEC.

Lets look the SEC and Big 12 and compare. Line by line for last year. By who would be favored if they didn't play

Alabama and Texas were conference winners. Advantage Texas

Ok State and UGA are next. Advantage UGA

OU and Ole Miss. Push

LSU and WVU. LSU

Iowa State and Mizz. Mizz

Kansas State and Tenn. Push

TT and TAM. TAM

Kansas and Auburn. Push

UCF and SC. SC

TCU and UF. UF

BYU and Kentucky. Kentucky

The rest are so terrible we can call them all pushes even though the SEC teams woudl be favored. You cannot compare playing Arkansas to playing OK State. Ok state was the second best conference opponent you played while Arky was everybody worse opponent in the SEC outside of Vandy. The conferences were so far away from each other last year it's not even close. Texas and OU can certainly compete in the conference but you are all about the learn a valuable lesson of what it means to have to play football week in and week out and not. You can pretend it doesn't exist. But having to play Florida instead of Texas Tech matters over the course a long brutal SEC season.






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