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re: Ten Best SEC Teams since 2000

Posted on 8/5/13 at 10:59 pm to
Posted by Sho Nuff
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Posted on 8/5/13 at 10:59 pm to
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One was a conference champ an hasn't lost to the other team in BCSCG.
Also LSU backed into the 2007 Bcscg game.
Why can't you admit Bama don't belong?


Impossible!
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48098 posts
Posted on 8/5/13 at 11:01 pm to
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This post reeks of anger.

Bru you really hate LSU. Let the pain go.
Seriously, how many LSU fans dumped cum in your mother?if you just acknowledge it, you may be able to move on.
This post was edited on 8/5/13 at 11:04 pm
Posted by USMC Gators
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Posted on 8/5/13 at 11:01 pm to
If y'all had won again instead, you know damn well that LSU nation wouldn't care now at all about Alabama "backing in."
Posted by USMC Gators
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Posted on 8/5/13 at 11:01 pm to
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Bru you really hate LSU. Let the pain go.
Seriously, how many LSU fans dump cum in your mother?if you just acknowledge it, you may be able to move on.

I thought you were done with me?
Posted by Sho Nuff
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Posted on 8/5/13 at 11:02 pm to
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Is there a rule that states you have to win your conference?
Is there a rule that states the title game can't be a rematch?



Did another team w/o winning their CC go since the fiasco in 2003? The BcS didn't write it down, but it was an understood rule that a team needs to win its conference.

See Michigan 06 and Kansas 07 as easy examples.

On a personal level, you think a team that can't even win it's own division can be called "National" Champions?
Posted by Sho Nuff
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Posted on 8/5/13 at 11:03 pm to
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3 teams. Before the bowl season Bama beat 3 teams above .500. Only 2 ranked teams all year.



Funny, II originally wrote 3 and didn't feel like looking it up and thought "nah, had to be more than 3"...
Posted by Indfanfromcol
LSU
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Posted on 8/5/13 at 11:03 pm to
In all honesty, Bama was the right team to be in the NC game. I don't think the outcome of the NC game would have been the same if roles reversed, but that is just my opinion. No way anyone can really prove either way.
Posted by USMC Gators
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Posted on 8/5/13 at 11:04 pm to
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On a personal level, you think a team that can't even win it's own division can be called "National" Champions?

Yes. It happens in other sports all the time. Florida Marlins in 97 and 03, for example.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 8/5/13 at 11:05 pm to
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They didnt run this great SEC gauntlet in 2011.



Maybe not, but they ran a tougher gauntlet than Kansas did in 2007, and that Kansas team beat 5 teams by 8 points or less. Here is that Kansas gauntlet that we're trying to compare:

Central Michigan (7-6)
Southeastern Louisiana (3-8)
Toledo (5-6)
Florida International (1-11)
Kansas St. (5-7)
Baylor (3-9)
Colorado (6-7)
Texas A&M (7-6)
Nebraska (5-7)
Oklahoma St. (7-6)
Iowa State (3-9)
Missouri (12-2)

And keeping in mind that Kansas lost to Missouri in the last game of the year prior to bowl season.

Not even close to a comparable situation.

Posted by Sho Nuff
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Posted on 8/5/13 at 11:05 pm to
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Again, the only people that don't think Bama belonged are LSU fans and Oklahoma State fans.

Quit being intellectually dishonest. You know what all the polls said BEFORE the game. Quit using hindsight from people as an excuse. 75% of CFB fans thought Okie should play LSU. And this was a sample from over a million fans just on CBS alone. ESPiN had anoother one up that was even higher sample size than the one Rick posted. Again, it was around 75%.

Damn man, be truthful.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 8/5/13 at 11:06 pm to
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Really? ESPiN/ABC allowed a coach to whine on TV while the team that beat them was playing in the SEC Champ game? You have got to be shitting me. Just listen to that and tell me there isn't some funny stuff going on.


The REC runs this bitch. What can I say?
This post was edited on 8/5/13 at 11:07 pm
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 8/5/13 at 11:08 pm to
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Quit using hindsight from people as an excuse.


Quit trying to change the argument. Go back to the very beginning of this argument. You're making it about something it's not, because that's the only way your argument holds any kind of water. The original argument was about how people are going to remember the 2011 season.

This has absolutely nothing to do about who thought Bama should be there prior to the game, but you've somehow suckered me into arguing with you about it.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48098 posts
Posted on 8/5/13 at 11:09 pm to
Bruh you're not being honest if you think Bama deserved to be there on merit alone.
LSU beat Bama @ Bama to win the west. For beating Bama , LSU had to beat a top 10 Georgia, in Georgia, for the right to play Bama. Come on.
Posted by thirdlawson
Nashville
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 8/5/13 at 11:10 pm to
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Bruh 2010 Bama was or of the most talented team in CFB history. They were favored over every single team they played. Even Auburn who was undefeated. 2010 Bama had all Americans on the bench.



Damn near at least...close 2nd behind 2001 Miami.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 8/5/13 at 11:11 pm to
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LSU beat Bama @ Bama to win the west. For beating Bama , LSU had to beat a top 10 Georgia, in Georgia, for the right to play Bama. Come on.



Congrats?

I don't really care. It's pretty insignificant to me, or any other Bama fan, the Bama football program, or the rest of college football.

Alabama won the 2011 National Championship, and my kids will remember LSU's 2011 team as the team that Bama beat for the title.
Posted by Indfanfromcol
LSU
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Posted on 8/5/13 at 11:11 pm to
I think the deciding factor for the voters was which team is the better team. Was Bama the more deserving team? Hell no, and it wasn't even close. But Bama was the better team. They blew out ever opponent that LSU did, and both teams would have destroyed Oklahoma State.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 8/5/13 at 11:12 pm to
And I'm going to bed before I have to read the word "bruh" again.

I'll see if I can find this thread again tomorrow if you guys wish to carry on.
Posted by Sho Nuff
Oahu
Member since Feb 2009
13819 posts
Posted on 8/5/13 at 11:14 pm to
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rankings = opinions
Not all conferences are created equal.
Next.


You clearly missed that the Big 12 was on par or with the SEC that year. LSU and Bama were pimps. But the 12 had 5 teams ranked.

You're making this too easy.
Posted by Sho Nuff
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Posted on 8/5/13 at 11:21 pm to
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No

Thanks for being honest.
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because we had just seen them play, and I wanted an SEC team to have a shot. This was the last year that I pulled for an SEC team not named Bama in the BCSNCG, btw.


Sorry, but It comes down to your team and being completely biased, which you are. That's ok, but it's also ok to admit when teams get fricked over.
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Can you honestly compare Kansas to Bama? Big 12 vs SEC? I don't think you're really looking for a serious answer here

1 step forward and 2 steps back for you, mang. Stop deflecting. This isn't a "comparison" of the 2 teams and you know this. The situations are similar in that both didn't win a CC. The kicker is you guys continually harping on "2 loss LSU" but here's a 1 loss major conference team and you're deflecting.
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is that Oklahoma State lost in week 12 to a 6-6 team.

This has some reason to it. However, LSU lost the last game of the season in 2007.

I don't think you understand what I'm trying to show you. The SEC controls the BcS. Bama went because of bias. I know that hurts your feelers, but it is true. Only way does a team have every advantage over another and sit at home is when it involves the SEC. You keep glossing over it but "better loss" is a joke compared to SoS, CC, etc
Posted by Sho Nuff
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 8/5/13 at 11:24 pm to
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If y'all had won again instead, you know damn well that LSU nation wouldn't care now at all about Alabama "backing in."


I've already said I can't blame Bama fans for being happy they were "picked". I am talking about the disrespect that started coming from Bama fans about 12 pages ago

Conveniently forgetting they shouldn't have even been there. They would have nothing to say on a 14-0 LSU team with the schedule they played and beating a Bama team that was so stout IN Tusc.

And if it wasn't Bama, then you can bet your arse Okie would have been playing. But no way theSEC and BcS are letting Bama sit at home. Never mind it went against all logic.
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