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re: Targeting Rule: How fair is it really?
Posted on 9/30/13 at 11:39 am to GoneGumping
Posted on 9/30/13 at 11:39 am to GoneGumping
Let see how the ncaa likes it when every tackle is made at the knees and offenses are decimated.
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Posted on 9/30/13 at 11:39 am to randomways
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Yeah, except it doesn't make any sense. The penalty for 'targeting' isn't "15 yards." It's "15 yards and ejection of offending party" right? So they are overturning the penalty call, just not the entire punishment.
Yeah i agree it makes no sense, because they bascially are overturning the flag on the field.
I think this is the part of the rule that gets changed. They'll still tell the refs to falg it if it even looks like targeting, but they'll allow the booth to overturn the flag if replay shows it wasn't targeting.
Posted on 9/30/13 at 11:39 am to h0bnail
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I agree. I'm fine with the rule, but they need to be able to reverse the penalty. That's just mind-blowingly retarded.
Posted on 9/30/13 at 11:40 am to GoneGumping
I think it is a joke. this is football...not soccer.
Posted on 9/30/13 at 11:42 am to Stingray
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Let see how the ncaa likes it when every tackle is made at the knees and offenses are decimated.
It's already happening in the pros and college.
The UT defender who took-out Marcus Lattimore last year went on record as saying he would have went high but with the targeting rule in mind he was forced to go low even with Lattimore already engaged and defenseless from the waist down.
And earlier this year, during the NFL preseason, DJ Swearinger said when he hit Keller he went low because of fear of being penalized for going high ... and he was trying to make the roster, which he did of course but still; there is no doubt that the rule has already led to numerous catastrophic knee injuries at both levels.
Posted on 9/30/13 at 11:45 am to GoneGumping
It's only a matter of time before this ridiculous rule costs someone a game, and it could be a very important game.
It simply must be changed.
If the review finds it was a blown call, no penalty period.
It simply must be changed.
If the review finds it was a blown call, no penalty period.
This post was edited on 9/30/13 at 11:47 am
Posted on 9/30/13 at 11:45 am to scrooster
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And earlier this year, during the NFL preseason, DJ Swearinger said when he hit Keller he went low because of fear of being penalized for going high ... and he was trying to make the roster, which he did of course but still; there is no doubt that the rule has already led to numerous catastrophic knee injuries at both levels.
That pissed me off when folks tried to call DJ a dirty player after that hit. What is the defender supposed to do, just let the receiver with a height/weight advantage run them over? It's ridiculous.
I know rules tend to favor offenses but this nonsense has gotten far out of hand.
Posted on 9/30/13 at 11:55 am to GoneGumping
I think it's bullshite, until they figure out a way to make both the offensive and defensive player responsible for these hits it shouldn't be a penalty
Not to beat a dead horse but offensive players lower their heads all the time at the last second and suddenly it's targeting even though the defensive player didn't do anything different
Not to beat a dead horse but offensive players lower their heads all the time at the last second and suddenly it's targeting even though the defensive player didn't do anything different
Posted on 9/30/13 at 12:00 pm to TbirdSpur2010
Cant wait to see some spread teams start losing their star players to blown out knees. This rule was made to punish good defenses and allow passing offenses the ability to make the easy pass over the middle without their players being punished for the play in traffic. Before players had to think twice before catching the ball in traffic, its harder to focus and make a catch when your body is naturally tensing for impact. These punishing hits were a necessary yang to the yin of the easy over the middle throw. Now the homeostasis of the battle between offense and defense has been thrown out of whack and the game is worse for it. The only people who could be proponents of this are leagues with terrible defenses who just want to play basketball on grass. These people tend to be pussy libtards with no respect for the defensive side to the game and just want to see scoreboards light up.
Posted on 9/30/13 at 12:09 pm to labamafan
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Agree if it's not targeting eliminate the penalty.
I agree if the only penalty is targeting. I think they need to redefine the rule and make the targeting penalty two parts. Targeting and no other infraction and targeting with another infraction(such as a late hit or roughing the passer, etc). That way they can remove the 15 yards if the targeting is reversed and that was all that was called. If the targeting is reversed, but it was also a late hit, etc they could justify leaving the 15 yards. Personally I agreed with the reversal of the ejection of Eddie Jackson Saturday night, but was fine with the 15 yard penalty because he had plenty of time to hold up hitting him.
Posted on 9/30/13 at 12:14 pm to Stingray
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Let see how the ncaa likes it when every tackle is made at the knees and offenses are decimated.
One can live a long life with a limp and knee replacements. One has a much harder time with dementia. I like rules that help reduce head injuries. Like all new rules they will have to tweak until they get the right mix of safety and fairness to the players.
Posted on 9/30/13 at 12:14 pm to Stingray
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Let see how the ncaa likes it when every tackle is made at the knees and offenses are decimated.
Nonsense. Defenders just need to tackle at the waist every time. Is that so difficult to do?
There is like a whole foot of space to hit where you can safely avoid targeting the head and hurting someone's knees. Should be easy to do when running full speed while the other guy is also running full speed and trying to avoid you by jumping, ducking, and moving side to side.
Posted on 9/30/13 at 12:20 pm to GoneGumping
The rule is the worst rule I've ever seen. At a BARE MINIMUM they have to be able to overturn the penalty as well as the ejection. I'd prefer they get rid of it all together because what I'm seeing now are too many players afraid of tackling for fear of hitting some one too hard and getting ejected.
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