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re: Talent holding serve in the playoffs so far

Posted on 1/2/25 at 12:45 pm to
Posted by DawginSC
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Posted on 1/2/25 at 12:45 pm to
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So exactly when does a player acquire maximal talent... that is not in part due to development.

I'd say that according to your theory it is when you are born (or conceived if you like) and then the rest of it is just "development".


When a human stops growing naturally (not growth from lifting weights or eating, but rather from aging), they've reached their natural athletic talent level cap. Everything after that is development.

that usually happens around age 16 for girls and 18 for boys.

Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
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Posted on 1/2/25 at 12:46 pm to
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Tom Brady had no talent - just uberly developed through coaching


Tom Brady was a 4-star recruit. He was a blue chip. He was on the cover of a magazine at the time called "Blue Chip Illustrated" as a HS recruit.
This post was edited on 1/2/25 at 12:49 pm
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 1/2/25 at 12:50 pm to
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This is purely high school - nothing relevant to transfer as seen by Ole Miss


Your transfers are not as good as you think they are.

If you want to see overall rankings for this year that include transfers, here you go:

2025 Overall Team Rankings

Ole Miss is still down at #13, 40+ points below Texas and Alabama despite having 10+ more recruits.

You think you are getting 5 star transfers, but you generally aren't. They are re-evaluated and most of the time they drop. Sometimes you'll have an occasional gain.

Take Caleb Odom you got from Alabama. He was only a 3 star transfer. 4 star out of highschool.

Sage Ryan you got from LSU? 3 star transfer. 5 star out of highschool. There is a reason they say "former 5 star".

Jaylon Braxton for Arkansas - 3 star transfer, despite being a 4 star out of highschool.

And so on.

Some do go up. The kid you picked up from Nebraska was a 4 star HS recruit and a 4 star transfer. But he' gained rating and is almost in the 5 star area as a transfer.

The kid you got from OSU was a 3 star recruit, but now he's a 4 star transfer.



This post was edited on 1/2/25 at 12:54 pm
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 1/2/25 at 12:53 pm to
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Tom Brady was a 4-star recruit. He was a blue chip. He was on the cover of a magazine at the time called "Blue Chip Illustrated" as a HS recruit.


Never heard of recruiting rankings in the mid 90s, or that magazine until today.

Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
7341 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 1:06 pm to
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Never heard of recruiting rankings in the mid 90s, or that magazine until today.


It might be more correct to say he was the equivalent of a 4-star.

Here's what Fox News said about him:

"Tom Brady, New England Patriots

Brady came up in the pre-Scout era when high school-player recruiting was much different than it is now. However, he was a highly sought-after quarterback prospect, and where he was rated is consistent with what would be a four-star recruit in today's rating system, per the Maize and Blue News. He narrowed his list down to Michigan, UCLA, USC, California and Illinois before deciding on the Wolverines."

"Brady was also on Blue Chip Illustrated as well as a Prep Football Report All-American selection."
Posted by Bigdawgb
Member since Oct 2023
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Posted on 1/2/25 at 1:21 pm to
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This may be the dumbest shite I've ever read on this board.


Bad take, no amount of development is going to take a 5'8 nerd and turn him into a 6'6 320lb DT. And even years of relentless speed training will not turn my slow accountant arse into a 4.3 receiver.

Habits, reaction, awareness, play recognition etc. are all examples of development. They allow you to maximize your talent.
Posted by REBEL5 AC
Member since Sep 2012
15817 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 1:23 pm to
He was not on the cover of this random magazine.
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
79761 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 6:28 pm to
Almost proved to be true.
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