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re: Stemming from the "chest pounding" thread

Posted on 7/24/08 at 12:41 pm to
Posted by MattFlynnRox
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Posted on 7/24/08 at 12:41 pm to
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And that's exactly why no one else in the SEC likes dick bag fans like you. Yall don't understand that the SEC must stick together. Some of you just don't understand that and want your team to be the best at all costs, even if that means selling out your conference (or sister). It will come back to bite you in the arse one day.


It's been a looooooooooonng time since Bama has been in the championship picture. When you are a bottom dweller, you typically don't give a shite about the system and how national exposure and the media machine can factor in. Right now, the bammers are more concerned with perfecting the logistics of their tailgates for another visit to Shreveport this year.
Posted by jbirds1
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Posted on 7/24/08 at 1:10 pm to
Their problem is that they are considered, so they think, as one of the historic powerhouses. However, as good as they once were, no one outside of the SEC gives a shite or even considers them a powerhouse.
Because they think this way, they think they don't need us or the conference. If anything, they need the conference more than the conference needs them.
Posted by GarmischTiger
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Posted on 7/24/08 at 1:24 pm to
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Ross

Auburn has been one of the teams I like least and want to beat most based on our recent history, but y'all were jobbed in 2004.
Posted by DvlsAdvocat
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Posted on 7/24/08 at 1:49 pm to
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And that's exactly why no one else in the SEC likes dick bag fans like you. Yall don't understand that the SEC must stick together. Some of you just don't understand that and want your team to be the best at all costs, even if that means selling out your conference (or sister). It will come back to bite you in the arse one day.


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Posted by bamaatlsu
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Posted on 7/24/08 at 2:03 pm to
jbirds1,
there is one bama fan here disagreeing with what you are saying, and there are about 3000 lsu fans over on the rant that disagree with what you are saying. Did you see all the threads by people that were upset when fans at the BCSCG started chanting S-E-C? Guys over there constantly say "I pull for every other SEC team except Saban and Alabama." My point is, I kinda felt like you were directing a couple of your posts at Bama fans, when in fact many in your own fanbase feel the same way as LuckyLes.

Also, guys u all must remember 'toughest conference' is a very fluid measurement. The Big 10 was the toughest conference just a few short years ago (going by bowl record). The Big 12 also staked claim to the title during the early 2000s when Texas/Oklahoma/Nebraska were all good. You can beat your chest now, but realize things can change very quickly
Posted by jbirds1
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Posted on 7/24/08 at 2:18 pm to
I understand things can change very quickly. But I don't think a majority of fans were offended by the SEC chant. That's completely untrue, and you couldn't convince me otherwise. Hell, I'll admit that I root for Bama when they aren't playing us, and in fact, I've asked why so many hate Bama.
My question was not directed at yall at all. It was a response to another thread. And I never said that I thought Bama wasn't needed or wasn't liked. I simply said that fans like luckyles weren't liked by SEC fans in general.
I have no idea what your statement above meant. I'm guessing you didn't read the entire thread, probably just the first and last few posts.


And I don't understand this statement at all.
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Also, guys u all must remember 'toughest conference' is a very fluid measurement. The Big 10 was the toughest conference just a few short years ago (going by bowl record). The Big 12 also staked claim to the title during the early 2000s when Texas/Oklahoma/Nebraska were all good. You can beat your chest now, but realize things can change very quickly
It had nothing to do with my question. I never once said that times don't change. To do so would be stupid and baseless.


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My point is, I kinda felt like you were directing a couple of your posts at Bama fans, when in fact many in your own fanbase feel the same way as LuckyLes

Go back and read what I said. I never once directed it at you. I said fans, not Bama fans.


The only thing directed at you was in reference of how your fanbase feels about being a historic football school.
SO read what I said again, and then think about what you said. Then you can say I am baseless.

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ere is one bama fan here disagreeing with what you are saying, and there are about 3000 lsu fans over on the rant that disagree with what you are saying. Did you see all the threads by people that were upset when fans at the BCSCG started chanting S-E-C?

Not true at all.
This post was edited on 7/24/08 at 2:23 pm
Posted by bamaatlsu
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Posted on 7/24/08 at 2:32 pm to
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Their problem is that they are considered, so they think, as one of the historic powerhouses. However, as good as they once were, no one outside of the SEC gives a shite or even considers them a powerhouse.
Because they think this way, they think they don't need us or the conference. If anything, they need the conference more than the conference needs them


you are talking about Bama fans, correct? I was just pointing out to you that many LSU fans feel the same way you are accusing Bama fans of feeling, hence bringing up the fact that many LSU fans were upset with the S-E-C chants. Maybe I took something you posted out of context, but it looks pretty plain and clear
Posted by LuckyLee
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Posted on 7/24/08 at 2:39 pm to
Yeah, I gotta admit, most Bama fans pull for the SEC at all costs (the ones I know at least).

And it really isn't that far fetched for the B12 to be better than the SEC next year.
Posted by jbirds1
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Posted on 7/24/08 at 2:41 pm to
No, I was directing that at certain Bama fans that don't feel the need for the SEC or SEC pride. It was basically my opinion on why some Bama fans feel like they are too good for the conference. I'm sure the average Bama fan doesn't feel this way, but I was trying to establish why LuckLes did. My point was that they (certain Bama fans) felt that they didn't really need the SEC because they already had national prominence. However, I was saying that they still needed it and should be proud of it because no on eelse in the country, besides SEC fans, considers them a national powerhouse, at least historically. The only reason why I said Bama was because I was speaking directly to LuckyLes and they are the only team that can be considered a national powerhouse (historically) in the SEC.
Posted by Jaydeaux
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Posted on 7/24/08 at 2:43 pm to
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SEC pride is for chumps.


Dude are you "unknown poster"? Especially when you're in the position Bamma is in you pull for conference. I understand not pulling for one team to do well but once the bowls are set you suck it up and pull for the SEC.

One of my prouder moments as an LSU fan was the Team chanting SEC on TV after the win. Shows those guys appreciate the competition.
This post was edited on 7/24/08 at 2:48 pm
Posted by LuckyLee
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Posted on 7/24/08 at 2:44 pm to
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No, I was directing that at certain Bama fans that don't feel the need for the SEC or SEC pride. It was basically my opinion on why some Bama fans feel like they are too good for the conference. I'm sure the average Bama fan doesn't feel this way, but I was trying to establish why LuckLes did. My point was that they (certain Bama fans) felt that they didn't really need the SEC because they already had national prominence. However, I was saying that they still needed it and should be proud of it because no on eelse in the country, besides SEC fans, considers them a national powerhouse, at least historically. The only reason why I said Bama was because I was speaking directly to LuckyLes and they are the only team that can be considered a national powerhouse (historically) in the SEC.


Bama is definitely not "too good for the conference," definitely didn't mean for my comments to come off like that. I just root against teams that I don't like. I wanted Arky to beat Mizzou just because I liked Dmac and I thought Jones was the most underrated player in the conference. I wanted UF to beat OSU too.
Posted by jbirds1
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Posted on 7/24/08 at 2:47 pm to
No, I was just trying to figure the psychology of SOME of the Bama fans. I just don't understand. I would rather my rival win against a team OOC then see them lose. It makes you and the conference stronger as a whole. When it's all said and done, you can hate them on game day and root for them any other time.
Posted by bamaatlsu
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Posted on 7/24/08 at 2:51 pm to
Yeah, I think I see what you're saying, and I agree with it, jbirds. I had this same conversation on the rant, except it wasnt with idiot bama fans, it was with idiot lsu fans. I was just saying every school has those kinds of fans. And the last two sentences of your post confused me, they seem to be contradictory. One says no one considers Bama to be a national powerhouse, at least historically. The next says they are the only team in the SEC that is considered to be a national powerhouse (historically).

Posted by bamaatlsu
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Posted on 7/24/08 at 2:55 pm to
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I would rather my rival win against a team OOC then see them lose

whoa, there! I gotta draw the line with this statement. If you had an instate rival, I think you might feel differently. I also think you are in the minority of LSU fans that feel this way, too. I think most LSU/Aub/Tenn fans thoroughly enjoy the fact that bama lost to ULM, and definitely weren't pulling for Bama
Posted by jbirds1
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Posted on 7/24/08 at 2:56 pm to
What I was saying or attempting to say was that Bama should be considered a national powerhouse. THey were that good and have a strong football program througout the years.
What I was trying to get across was that maybe some of the Bama fans felt they were too good for the conference, like they were above the SEC comradery, because they think of themselves as a ntiaonl powerhouse.
The problem, I was saying, is that most people outside of the SEC don't consider them to be a powerhouse. They are morons who only think of ND, USC, and OSU. When someone tries to bring up Bama, they only ridicule them for being in the south (slavery, rednecks and intelligence). I was just saying, that if they did think this way, they shouldn't. They should be proud that they play against other great teams throughout the south.
Posted by jbirds1
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Posted on 7/24/08 at 2:59 pm to
I would have rather yall have won. It made yall look bad and our conference. Sometimes to win, you gotta learn to have others in your conference succeed as well.
I may not like Bama, but I have no real gripes with them. I'm a pretty easy going person. I love the sec tradition and i love all the teams in the SEC. I love giving you a hard time, but in the end I'll end up drinking a beer with you.
SOme fans don't feel this way, and that's all right. I just don't understand it.
It just wouldn't make sense fo rme to root against yall. It makes us look bad too.
This post was edited on 7/24/08 at 3:00 pm
Posted by bamaatlsu
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Posted on 7/24/08 at 3:05 pm to
gotcha. I thought the S-E-C chants in last year's Sugar Bowl and BCSCG were very impressive, and I was proud to be pulling for the bulldogs and tigahs on those two nights (it also helped that they both covered the spread).



but i'm not pulling for auburn
Posted by jbirds1
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Posted on 7/24/08 at 3:06 pm to
I guess it's different for LSU fans though. We really don't have a "rival."
Posted by pdunn
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Posted on 7/25/08 at 1:53 pm to
most LSU fans pull for fellow SEC teams every time they play ooc. I hope we repeat, but if not I will be pulling for UGA or AUB or FL or whoever to win it all. I thought the SEC chant at the NC game was great...
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