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re: SOURCES: UGA and Baylor Coach Scott Drew in Talks About Open Job....

Posted on 3/12/22 at 10:53 am to
Posted by MillerLiteTime
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Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 3/12/22 at 10:53 am to
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I think "great" coaches do not want to move to a rebuild situation.



In NIL and open transfer world, you can rebuild a basketball program in 1 year. Hell, Lincoln Riley is rebuilding USC's football roster in one year and that's with 85 players instead of 13.

Most people still don't realize just how shitty NCAA football and basketball fanhood is about to become. Welcome to the beginning of being a fan of professional minor league sports.
This post was edited on 3/12/22 at 10:55 am
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 3/12/22 at 10:55 am to
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Completely delusional.


Maybe he remembers 2002/2003 era uga.
Posted by Hawgeye
tFlagship Brothel
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 3/12/22 at 10:59 am to
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I have no idea if we’re getting Drew


You're not

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but people on this board need to come up with a reason Georgia can’t hire a great coach other than “they haven’t won in the past”


No they don't. The past is all there is to go off of. UGA has terrible facilities. New Practice facility? Nice Arena? New player facilities?

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Auburn and South Carolina hadn’t won in the past either and it didn’t stop them from going out and hiring good coaches and making final four runs


Auburn built a new arena and showed they were will to commit money to a program. They delivered on the facility front for players. Bruce Pearl was also a coach no other teams were touching at the time. The NCAA issues scared many programs off.

South Carolina has one of the bigger and nicest on campus facilities in the league. I also would not call Frank Martin a good coaching hire. Especially when comparing to Scott Drew.

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if the school has the resources and the administration is willing to make the investments into the program, they can get the right coach. Those are literally the only barriers to entry.


UGA has not shown that in its entire existence. Since SEC Expansion in 1991-92 Georgia has had 13 seasons of .500 or less overall and 21 seasons of .500 or less in SEC play. That is an administration that does not care.

The arena is a dark, old, shite hole. It was opened in 1964. UGA has no mens only facility for practices, lounges, etc. Overall, UGA is about 15-20 years behind the rest of the nation.
Posted by Hawgeye
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Posted on 3/12/22 at 11:02 am to
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He's not wrong. The SEC and Big Ten schools with big football revenue and deep pocket boosters will start to win more basketball recruiting battles because they can shift nearly all their booster funds toward NIL while still maintaining top facilities and coaching salaries with tv revenue. The smaller leagues will need to use their booster funds just to keep paying the day to day expenses. In the new NIL era, the more you can afford to shift booster money directly to player pockets, the more you will win.


Could not be more wrong.

The Big 12 will still be a top 2-3 league nationally in basketball. Anyone who thinks otherwise is, well, just stupid.

Kansas, Baylor, Cincinnati, Oklahoma State, Iowa State, BYU, TCU, Kansas State, West Virginia is a strong arse basketball league.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
38130 posts
Posted on 3/12/22 at 11:04 am to
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UGA has not shown that in its entire existence. Since SEC Expansion in 1991-92 Georgia has had 13 seasons of .500 or less overall and 21 seasons of .500 or less in SEC play. That is an administration that does not care


We have shown we can win and the fans will come. Just takes the right coach.
Posted by Hawgeye
tFlagship Brothel
Member since Jun 2009
31867 posts
Posted on 3/12/22 at 11:08 am to
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We have shown we can win and the fans will come. Just takes the right coach.


When? When is the last time UGA has had season ticket sell outs? When is the last time UGA has had consecutive home game sellouts? When is the last time UGA was in the top half of the league in attendance?

UGA will settle for an older coach who is on the back side of his career or a no name coach not many people have heard about. You guys wishing for Scott Drew are setting yourselves up for failure.

Louisville and Missouri will land better coaches because they have an administration that has shown in the past, to commit resources to basketball.
This post was edited on 3/12/22 at 11:09 am
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42847 posts
Posted on 3/12/22 at 11:10 am to
All you have to do is look at the facilities to see just how little basketball matters to UGA.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
38130 posts
Posted on 3/12/22 at 11:14 am to
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When? When is the last time UGA has had season ticket sell outs? When is the last time UGA has had consecutive home game sellouts? When is the last time UGA was in the top half of the league in attendance?


I was at uga during the Harrick years. Was on pace for Back to back 3 seeds with sell outs aplenty.

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You guys wishing for Scott Drew are setting yourselves up for failure.


I don’t expect anything. I am fine with being the national champion in football if that’s the choice.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 3/12/22 at 11:16 am to
You do realize that we have a new AD and administration who isn't afraid to pour money where it's needed, right?

This ain't your daddy's UGA.
Posted by MsState of mind
State of Denial
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 3/12/22 at 11:17 am to
Incoming Scott Drew gets Huge raise to stay With Baylor
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
14018 posts
Posted on 3/12/22 at 11:17 am to
We rich bitch! frick off poors.
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
44743 posts
Posted on 3/12/22 at 11:20 am to
We are a delusional basketball fanbase.
Posted by Hawgeye
tFlagship Brothel
Member since Jun 2009
31867 posts
Posted on 3/12/22 at 11:20 am to
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I was at uga during the Harrick years. Was on pace for Back to back 3 seeds with sell outs aplenty.


2000-01 Georgia ranked 64th in the nation in attendance. That is good enough for 10th out of the then 12 teams in the SEC. So even in a year you call good attendance, UGA didnt not average near sell out numbers and drew less than 100k fans total for the season. Ranked in the bottom of the league in fan support overall.
2001 NCAA Attendance Numbers

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I don’t expect anything. I am fine with being the national champion in football if that’s the choice.


This is why Georgia will always be a lower tier basketball program.
Posted by Hawgeye
tFlagship Brothel
Member since Jun 2009
31867 posts
Posted on 3/12/22 at 11:22 am to
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You do realize that we have a new AD and administration who isn't afraid to pour money where it's needed, right?


Great. Now, where are the articles for that new AD's commitment to new basketball facilities and player facilities on campus? Since, as you say it, they are not afraid to "pour money" where it is needed...

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This ain't your daddy's UGA.


Yes it is and it will never change.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
38130 posts
Posted on 3/12/22 at 11:26 am to
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This is why Georgia will always be a lower tier basketball program.


But it’s wrong because it ignores the fact that uga fan will support a winner with vigor. I doubt a coach making $5 million cares if we sell out vs Vermont in November.

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So even in a year you call good attendance,


This isn’t a 3 seed year, and it wouldn’t refute my point at all if it were.
Posted by Hawgeye
tFlagship Brothel
Member since Jun 2009
31867 posts
Posted on 3/12/22 at 11:32 am to
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But it’s wrong because it ignores the fact that uga fan will support a winner with vigor.


No it isnt. Georgia hasnt ever supported a team with "vigor" in the existence of the new SEC, since 1992.

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I doubt a coach making $5 million cares if we sell out vs Vermont in November.


You'd be wrong.

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This isn’t a 3 seed year, and it wouldn’t refute my point at all if it were.


2001 UGA won 22 games, the most of the Herrick era. Achieved the programs highest ranking under Herrick.

Yes, it does refute your point of attendance. It ranked in the bottom of the league and 64th nationally. That is not good, especially for a ranked basketball team.

That same season, South Carolina won 6 games in SEC play yet they drew over 10k per game and ranked 44th in the nation. That is a commitment from the fan base to support basketball.
Posted by MillerLiteTime
Atlanta
Member since Aug 2018
3248 posts
Posted on 3/12/22 at 11:35 am to
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Kansas, Baylor, Cincinnati, Oklahoma State, Iowa State, BYU, TCU, Kansas State, West Virginia is a strong arse basketball league.



I agree it is still a strong basketball league with a lot of big names. And you left out Houston. But big names are not going to beat 7 figure NIL deals going to every 5 star recruit. I bet Scott Drew is sensing that he may soon not have the booster backing to keep up with that market at Baylor.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 3/12/22 at 11:36 am to
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We are a delusional basketball fanbase.


What's wrong w/wanting to strive higher.

We can and should be better in basketball.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 3/12/22 at 11:39 am to
I'm sure Josh Brooks already has some money earmarked for basketball facilities improvements.

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This ain't your daddy's UGA.


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Yes it is and it will never change.

Glad you aren't our AD.

You are gonna melt when we hire a big name in a couple of weeks.
Posted by Hawgeye
tFlagship Brothel
Member since Jun 2009
31867 posts
Posted on 3/12/22 at 11:40 am to
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But big names are not going to beat 7 figure NIL deals going to every 5 star recruit. I bet Scott Drew is sensing that he may soon not have the booster backing to keep up with that market at Baylor.


Basketball recruits have been getting deals for years and the recruiting world of basketball is controlled by the AAU circuit.

You have no idea what you're talking about.

The Big 12 will continue to be a top 2-3 power conference in basketball. If anything, it will be stronger with Oklahoma and Texas leaving and the new teams coming in.
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