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re: Solely about football. Are SMU and Texas Tech more desirable coaching jobs than Arkansas?

Posted on 7/29/25 at 2:13 pm to
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
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Posted on 7/29/25 at 2:13 pm to
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Marquel Wade (New Berlin, NY)
That explains so much.
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
26916 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 2:20 pm to
They all played soft OCC schedules and didn't seek tougher OCC competition unlike today.

Occasionally they did play tougher OCC games but not on a yearly basis.

Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
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Posted on 7/29/25 at 3:46 pm to
Not trolling, solely about football...

SMU is the best job- as long as the ACC remains a P4 conference. They have been there 1 year, and have already made the playoffs. And they didn't even have to beat Clemson to do so, just make the championship game.

Arkansas, in contrast, has to overcome a lot of really good programs in the SEC, even if they were to spend a ton of money.
Posted by Hogwarts
Arkansas, USA
Member since Sep 2015
18348 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 3:48 pm to
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Tyson chicken.


he's all basketball for NIL
Posted by phaz
Waddell, AZ
Member since Jan 2009
6574 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 4:26 pm to
Hell no, with good coaching, Arkansas has proven to produce top 10 teams consistently
Posted by Red_and_black
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2014
746 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 4:39 pm to
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Dude please stop. Have you even been to Lubbock and seen the 60,000 capacity stadium? Last time I checked the tech tards were 24th or so in 2026 recruiting.

Arky is a much better job.


..And we will still have a better program than aggy. Relative to your resources, your football sucks, your basketball disappoints year in and year out. But hey, you do win some meat judging contest every now and then.

At least we have been to a National Championship game in a major sport in the last 10 years. Have you clown ever made it to the Elite 8 ?

Aggy doing less with more- Year in and year out.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
88509 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 4:43 pm to
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What did they ever do to anybody?


you haven’t been here that long

for you my friend
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
26916 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 5:09 pm to
I don't know about that but I can see Arkansas having similar results to what Frank Beamer did at Virginia Tech and Mike Gundy at Oklahoma State if this was at full potential.
Posted by Hmanhunt
Member since Sep 2015
711 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 7:45 pm to
This is all perspective. Put Texas Tech and SMU and they will always be bottom feeders barring the occasional generational QB. Put Arkansas in their shoes and we probably win 9+ a season even with the current average coaching situation. We are night and day a better football program yesterday, today and tomorrow.
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
65435 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 8:30 pm to
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Not trolling, solely about football...

SMU is the best job- as long as the ACC remains a P4 conference. They have been there 1 year, and have already made the playoffs. And they didn't even have to beat Clemson to do so, just make the championship game.
I actually agree. If I'm a coach, I'm not leaving SMU for Arkansas. The price of a playoff ticket is significantly cheaper at SMU than it is at Arkansas, and they're willing to spend more regardless of that fact. SMU is currently a much better destination to grow a coach's reputation.

The playoff expansion changed a ton. Conference prestige doesn't matter nearly as much as long as your conference still has an auto bid. It's much better to be an SMU with a leg up on the vast majority of your conference than to be at a bigger program like Arkansas that still has to fight a conference like the SEC with one arm tied behind its back due to a lack of NIL investment.
This post was edited on 7/29/25 at 8:39 pm
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
26916 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 9:00 pm to
SMU had to cheat in the 80s and didn't really accomplish much and while Arkansas stayed clean that was able to help them win the marathon.

So in a weird way, Arkansas wasn't really trying that hard and still had more success than SMU. If they really tried by becoming an outlaw program then Arkansas would have left SMU further in the dust.

That is pretty much the highlight of SMU football unless you go back 30 plus years before that.



Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
26916 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 9:38 pm to
That could be said for the rest of the SEC members concerning a path to the playoffs.

Why did Texas and Oklahoma join the SEC when they had an easier path to the playoffs in the Big 12?

Why besides the money should any program stay in SEC when they could join an easier conference and make the playoffs every year?
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
44597 posts
Posted on 7/30/25 at 11:10 am to
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Arkansas has proven to produce top 10 teams consistently





Arkansas has finished in the AP top 10 once in the last 40 years
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
65435 posts
Posted on 7/30/25 at 1:15 pm to
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Why besides the money should any program stay in SEC when they could join an easier conference and make the playoffs every year?
You answered your own question. Making money is the #1 priority for these people. The difference between them and us is they're also willing to spend enough to be competitive. We're clearly not.
Posted by ScotlandAve
Member since Dec 2024
508 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 11:57 pm to
TT got the commitment of the #1 edge in the ‘27 class.
Posted by BurnsideStyle
Member since May 2014
2395 posts
Posted on 8/8/25 at 12:12 am to
Yeah the Kiffin and Carter show really put y'all in a spin didn’t it?
Posted by SL Xpress
Member since Mar 2023
368 posts
Posted on 8/8/25 at 1:08 am to
I feel like that commitment still has a long ways to go. Texas Tech is going to get in there with a huge bid to try to scare everyone else away. We'll see where the market goes over the course of the year. My belief is that we're in the beginnings of a bubble market - I call it the tulip mania phase. There will be plenty of other programs over the course of the season that figure out the market for purchasing top tier high school talent has risen enormously again, and the alumni will again make a personal financial decision if they're going to contribute at a level that allows their alma mater to compete at a championship level, or if the price has just gotten too high.

We've seen USC and Miami put offers out there that no one else was going to remotely touch. Texas Tech with the Double Eagle money has been doing the same. But those programs aren't winning every recruitment, so they have a limit.

It's still very interesting to me he committed to Texas Tech this early. I'm surprised no one has made a thread about it, especially since he's out of Savannah, GA.

LaDamion Guyton
Posted by Underwood
Member since Dec 2022
1356 posts
Posted on 8/8/25 at 3:42 am to
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It's still very interesting to me he committed to Texas Tech this early. I'm surprised no one has made a thread about it, especially since he's out of Savannah, GA.



Stephen Cannon is a Texas Tech commit in the class of '26 and goes to high school with Guyton ('27). I'm not saying thats the reason he picked Tech but they are clearly buds.

Also think Cody Campbell being an ex football player under Mike Leach is helpful to their cause.
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