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So if LSU has to hear 5 years into the Miles era..
Posted on 7/21/09 at 8:46 pm
Posted on 7/21/09 at 8:46 pm
that Nick Saban is still the reason we are winning because he still have a few of his players here or there, how long does Ole Miss have to wait to get credit for Nutt being a good coach.
I think Nutt is a good coach and I think he will be gone after this year as well. No need to hang around and rebuild a talentless Ole Miss program in a few years when he can do the same making a lot more some where else. We all know who his agent is and you can never accuse Sexton of not trying to make money either.
I think Nutt is a good coach and I think he will be gone after this year as well. No need to hang around and rebuild a talentless Ole Miss program in a few years when he can do the same making a lot more some where else. We all know who his agent is and you can never accuse Sexton of not trying to make money either.
Posted on 7/21/09 at 8:59 pm to Vood
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So if LSU has to hear 5 years into the Miles era..
that Nick Saban
fwiw.. Nick had 2 SEC championships in 5 years. How badly does it reflect on Les if he can't match that, what with being left with a #1 and #2 recruiting class and carrying on to have top rated classes after that too.
Posted on 7/21/09 at 9:04 pm to Alahunter
quote:that is not an easy thing to do...1 SEC and 1 BCS Championship in 5 years is OK in my book and the program is still on track to win more in the future
2 SEC championships in 5 years


Posted on 7/21/09 at 9:11 pm to Alahunter
Not the best way to compare. I think you'll agree with me that the SEC is a tad diff now then it was then. Saban won the SEC once in his first two years at LSU but may have none to show for in his first 3 years at Bama. 

Posted on 7/21/09 at 9:14 pm to Alahunter
Saban won an SEC championship during his 2nd year at LSU.
Saban has been in Tuscaloser for two years and still hasn't won shite and he probably won't win shite in his 3rd year in Tuscaloser either. What does that say about bammer?
Saban has been in Tuscaloser for two years and still hasn't won shite and he probably won't win shite in his 3rd year in Tuscaloser either. What does that say about bammer?
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Posted on 7/21/09 at 9:17 pm to CC Tiger1
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Saban has been in Tuscaloser for two years and still hasn't won shite and he probably won't win shite in his 3rd year in Tuscaloser either. What does that say about bammer?
It is more telling about the quality of the SEC than anything else.
Posted on 7/21/09 at 9:18 pm to CC Tiger1
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Saban has been in Tuscaloosa for two years and got one of your best coaches ever fired

Posted on 7/21/09 at 9:18 pm to ShreveportBama
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CC
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ShreveportBama
Stop copying me.

Posted on 7/21/09 at 9:31 pm to ShreveportBama
quote:Sounds like double standards are being used. One set for Saban the other for miles. Bama fans have become real hypocrites
Saban has been in Tuscaloser for two years and still hasn't won shite and he probably won't win shite in his 3rd year in Tuscaloser either. What does that say about bammer?
It is more telling about the quality of the SEC than anything else.
Posted on 7/21/09 at 9:35 pm to Dennis4LSU
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Sounds like double standards are being used. One set for Saban the other for miles. Bama fans have become real hypocrites
Posted on 7/21/09 at 9:35 pm to geauxtigahs87
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Saban won the SEC once in his first two years at LSU but may have none to show for in his first 3 years at Bama
ironically because Bama was on probation and couldn't represent the West...
Posted on 7/21/09 at 10:22 pm to Dennis4LSU
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Sounds like double standards are being used
Bama and Ole Miss both have double standards. They want to trash Miles in a heartbeat but not use the same criteria to bash Saban or Nutt.
Posted on 7/21/09 at 10:24 pm to Alahunter
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Nick had 2 SEC championships in 5 years. How badly does it reflect on Les if he can't match that,
Nick didn't have Bama to contend with while he was here...if you guys would go back to sucking, Les could have already done more.

Posted on 7/21/09 at 10:34 pm to 1BIGTigerFan
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that Nick Saban is still the reason we are winning because he still have a few of his players here or there, how long does Ole Miss have to wait to get credit for Nutt being a good coach.
Not that you'll understand it, but...the reason there's a difference is because Leslie took over a winning program in a state that has a single university that gets recruits (as most of the other football programs in Louisiana are a joke)and has had similar results to Saban.
Nutt, on the other hand, took over a program that did not win a SEC game the year before and brought them to the Cotton Bowl. When you win with a team that lost for four straight years it is a bit more impressive than maintaining what was already in place with someone else's players (known as the "Coker Technique"). Time will tell if Nutt can win with his own players (which will say more about his recruiting than his coaching) as opposed to Leslie, who came in after the Saban Express and is at the only university talented kids in Louisiana would even think about going to to play football in state.
Posted on 7/21/09 at 10:42 pm to DeuceisLoose
This thing got stumply legs to it. I figured this angle had been all played out and I wouldn't get any bites. 

Posted on 7/21/09 at 10:50 pm to DeuceisLoose
Once again a double standard
Is there anything Ole Miss fans can't rationalize?
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Not that you'll understand it, but...the reason there's a difference is because Leslie took over a winning program in a state that has a single university that gets recruits (as most of the other football programs in Louisiana are a joke)and has had similar results to Saban
Is there anything Ole Miss fans can't rationalize?
Posted on 7/21/09 at 10:58 pm to Vood
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Once again a double standard
I told you that you wouldn't understand it. Let me make it simple (I wish I had pictures...you might get it then). Losing for four years and then winning = more credit given to the coach. Winning for five years (including one championship) and then winning for four years (including one championship) is more a reflection on the program than it is the coach (who had the perfect job that Saban created gift-wrapped for him).
I cannot believe I'm actually taking up for Saban as much as I can't stand the douche.
Posted on 7/21/09 at 11:16 pm to DeuceisLoose
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DeuceisLoose
Here's something you don't understand, and, to be honest, its a little surprising that you don't. If you've ever learned one thing from all of Ole Miss' suckage it should be that winning consistently is very difficult. Miles deserves more credit than you give him, but, no matter, his record speaks for itself. Nutt was very lucky that Orgeron, crappy head coach that he was, is such a good recruiter -- specifically Nutt was damn lucky to have Snead as his quarterback.
On the other hand, we are talking about Ole Miss. Perhaps leading Ole Miss to a bowl win is more impressive than leading any school to a national championship.

Posted on 7/21/09 at 11:20 pm to CC Tiger1
Well... To be fair. He did have us in a position to play for a NC. But Tebow...
Point being he far exceeded my expectations for the mess he inherited.
Point being he far exceeded my expectations for the mess he inherited.
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