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re: So according to ProFootballFocus...

Posted on 12/30/14 at 2:24 pm to
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 12/30/14 at 2:24 pm to
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you have got to be kidding me... you think upshaw is a bust and fairley has been "succesful" in the nfl
Nick Fairley has 4x's as many sacks as Courtney Upshaw, 2x's as many forced fumbles and has missed a lot of time due to injury. Just imagine his numbers if he could stay healthy.
Posted by auburnphan23
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Posted on 12/30/14 at 2:28 pm to
Fairley has missed a lot of games with injuries, but he has absolutely been better when healthy. Fairley has two separate years with more sacks than Upshaw has during his entire NFL career
Posted by MagillaGuerilla
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Posted on 12/30/14 at 2:31 pm to
Upshaw is somewhere in between a hit and a bust. Expectations were definitely higher for him, but he has a fairly important role in their defensive scheme. Playing SAM really doesn't rack up the sacks, especially when you're a part timer with Elvis Dumervil coming in on rush situations.

Jarret Johnson played the same spot, didn't really get a lot of publicity for it. Was voted one of the most underrated guys in the NFL at one point. JJ was a low pick though, and he kept developing as the years went on.

Upshaw is still a bit 1 dimensional, more so than his role asks him to be...
This post was edited on 12/30/14 at 2:32 pm
Posted by wadewilson
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Posted on 12/30/14 at 2:33 pm to
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Well Wade I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but Ingram finished in the top 10 in rushing this year. Richardson came in at 40th. He's a bust


How can Ingram be in the top 10 in rushing if 13 RB's got more yards than him?
Posted by wadewilson
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Posted on 12/30/14 at 2:39 pm to
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Having said that, Richardson averaged more ypg and more ypc than Alfred Blue, in addition to more touchdowns. Let's try to use facts in this thread and not opinions. As bad as Richardson is, Blue managed to be worse.


And on this, I certainly hope a 3rd overall pick would be able to outperform a 6th round draftee, even if it's only by 0.2 ypc.
Posted by JuiceTerry
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Posted on 12/30/14 at 2:40 pm to
Use the odb method. Find some stats that fit the argument.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 12/30/14 at 2:50 pm to
You really don't need stats to see that Ridley is better than Ingram and Blue is better than Richardson.

And Odell has better hands than Julio.
Posted by JuiceTerry
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Posted on 12/30/14 at 2:55 pm to
Your question was about Ingram being top 10.
Posted by wadewilson
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Posted on 12/30/14 at 3:01 pm to
In rushing? He's not.
Posted by Dplymkr88
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Posted on 12/30/14 at 3:02 pm to
Where's Mo Claiborne?
Posted by ehole
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Posted on 12/30/14 at 3:04 pm to
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Nick Fairley has 4x's as many sacks as Courtney Upshaw, 2x's as many forced fumbles and has missed a lot of time due to injury. Just imagine his numbers if he could stay healthy.


yes and dareus has 12 times as many sacks as rolando... it's called one is a defensive lineman and the other is a linebacker. sure upshaw may be a 3-4 olb that rushes at times, still entirely different fricking positions.
Posted by JuiceTerry
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Posted on 12/30/14 at 3:11 pm to
YPG. You know, the one stat that makes ODB the best receiver in the league. Nevermind dude.
Posted by joeyb147
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 12/30/14 at 3:11 pm to
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In rushing? He's not.

YPG he is

which i'm assuming is what he was using
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
40385 posts
Posted on 12/30/14 at 3:21 pm to
I didn't say ODBJ was the best receiver in the league.

I do think he had the best year tho.
Posted by JuiceTerry
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Posted on 12/30/14 at 3:40 pm to
quote:

I do think he had the best year tho.
Why? YPG?
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