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re: Sitting out bowl games for the NFL
Posted on 12/30/19 at 12:08 pm to RIPMachoMan
Posted on 12/30/19 at 12:08 pm to RIPMachoMan
Last I heard, the XFL is coming back. So there's the option for the "me me me" not team kids
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Posted on 12/30/19 at 12:12 pm to Eddie Can throw
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So there's the option for the "me me me" not team kids
Interesting. I wonder if it will catch on this time
Posted on 12/30/19 at 12:14 pm to Rock Floyd
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That is why schools will spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on a guy who can catch a football, but isn't worth killing otherwise.
Way to keep it classy
Posted on 12/30/19 at 12:18 pm to RIPMachoMan
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Way to keep it classy
Right! All college players are angels.
Never any gang bangers, drug dealers, rapists, woman beaters, thieves, armed robbers etc.
Sorry if the harsh truth offends you. Some of these guys are straight up thugs with athletic ability.
Posted on 12/30/19 at 12:20 pm to lsufball19
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You could have made a good point. Then you went down this nonsensical road
Nope not at all, people's ideology on this issue differs greatly along racial lines, and then when someone points it out, they try hard to look for rare exceptions to prove otherwise
No one cares about coaches abandoning Teams during Bowl Games, then those same folks need to shut up when players forego meaningless exhibition Bowls, simply stay consistent with your ideology
Posted on 12/30/19 at 12:21 pm to PeeJayScammedGT
You’ve made not a single point to support your position of its about race!
STFU.
STFU.
Posted on 12/30/19 at 12:26 pm to Rock Floyd
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Sorry if the harsh truth offends you. Some of these guys are straight up thugs with athletic ability.
No offense taken, but you do seem angry.
Did you ride the pine back in your playing days? Or worse, did you not make the team
Posted on 12/30/19 at 12:36 pm to themicah85
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You do realize that the NFL is the one causing them to sit out for 3 years before they go pro right? The NCAA isn't the one that controls that. You also realize that you could just not go to college? If you feel that a group of people are taking advantage of you and riding on your coat tails to make money while providing you nothing to get to the next level, why would you voluntarily participate in that? I mean youre so good, after high school just work out at the local park, send film of it to the NFL and work a normal job and get paid like you feel you deserve. I mean those coaches and fancy schmancy schools arent doing anything but using you so you should be totally fine.
Tell the same exact thing to the majority white HCs and Assts that rake in Millions
Lemme guess, they work hard and deserve it because the market it will bear it, meanwhile the majority Black players have to endure an artificially capped market so they can't get a fair share of the Billions they generate
But that's OK, seems like a fair system to you
Before you make a stupid azz comment, as long as there is no initiative for non Revenue Sports to raise their own money, and 2 sports that are majority Black raise 97% of all the money in an Athl Dept and that money is transferred to pay salaries of majority white coaches and schollies for majority white non Revenue Sports then yes that system is highly flawed and inherently racist
Simply make the non Revenue Sports raise their own money and my argument goes away very quietly
But we know that will never be done while the NCAA and other racists hide behind bullshyt phrases like "the amateur model" or "the collegiate model"
Posted on 12/30/19 at 12:59 pm to Rock Floyd
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I'll bet your arse is real quiet when the donors who pay for those scholarships are White by a huge majority, aren't you,?
You do realize it isn't the 1950s, you outdated racist azzhole
Athl Depts gross anywhere from $80 to over $200MM per yr at the Top75 schools that play big-time FB & MBB
Those scholarships are paid for by TV & Radio Money, merchandising and Tickets sales
Rich white Alums ain't paying for any FB & MBB schollies you dumb, outdated frick, maybe rich white Alums might help subsidize some partial schollies for non revenue sports
Since the Era of big time TV contracts due to a lawsuit won by UGA & Oklahoma - FB & MBB are self supporting and aren't funded by rich white boosters
Your stupid azz saw the Movie Blue Chips and you think that a real life Happy Kuykendall is is paying for Athl Schollies
I love the anonymity of the Internet, complete idiots expose themselves as complete idiots and think they sound smart
Stanford & USC might be the only exceptions in that they have endowment money specifically set up to subsidize Athl Scholarships, but that's TWO colleges out of the Top75, the other 73 big money schools pay for schollies as an operating expense out of yearly revenues, the majority being TV-RADIO-MERCHANDISING-Tickets
Please explain why every other NCAA sport operates at a deficit (Baseball might be break even)?
Posted on 12/30/19 at 1:11 pm to TigerOnTheMountain
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So how is this about race?
Nothing stops a black player from going to an HBCU if they’re concerned about race.
I mean other than the shite academic standards, worthless degree, and almost zero exposure they would receive as an athlete
Their parents pay a proportional share of state taxes due to the laws of that State
So whatever University they attend they should expect to be treated fairly under our Constitution, they shouldn't have to choose certain schools to be treated fairly
Also, the NCAA is not a Federal Agency, it is a voluntary rules organization that supposed to be about:
Safety for the participants
Maintaining rules for fair competition
Academic Integrity for their members
Conducting Championships for their members
Nowhere in the ORIGINAL MISSION of the NCAA does it say anything about generating Billions while making sure that the front line talent & labor be restricted to Tuition, Room, & Board
Times have changed and TV has pumped billions into big time college sports, simply change with the times and pay the REVENUE PRODUCERS a more fair piece of the Billions they generate
Posted on 12/30/19 at 1:17 pm to Jster15
I can’t blame any draft eligible player for sitting out of a non playoff bowl game. Those kids are so so close to real money within their grasp.
Posted on 12/30/19 at 1:33 pm to RIPMachoMan
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Multi-billion dollar industry and you think the schools investing in the athletes is the leg to stand on?
It's a multi-billion dollar industry because of TV contracts. Just putting this out there.
If some kid is lucky enough to get, lets say 250 Grand, for his likeness, or whatever, before he attends college to play football. That household would instantly jump up in tax bracket. If any kids in the family are on medicaid, well kiss that good bye. If another member of a family is going to college on a scholarship that is based on family income. Yep. Kiss that good bye. Housing subsidy? Sayonara! None of that goes away when the kid receives an academic scholarship even though that scholarship to a big time school is easily worth a plus or minus 100K.
Another consideration. What if Nike starts signing highs school kids to shoe contracts. Where would that kid feel obligated to go to school?
Posted on 12/30/19 at 1:37 pm to PeeJayScammedGT
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simply change with the times and pay the REVENUE PRODUCERS a more fair piece of the Billions they generate
What is that fair price? What do you base it on? Take Television contracts out of the equation and the problem is solved.
Trust me. I am no fan of the NCAA.
Posted on 12/30/19 at 1:38 pm to PeeJayScammedGT
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I love the anonymity of the Internet, complete idiots expose themselves as complete idiots and think they sound smart
Quick go run to a mirror and read this to yourself.
Posted on 12/30/19 at 1:42 pm to La Place Mike
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It's a multi-billion dollar industry because of TV contracts
Yep and that makes it to the conferences, then to the schools.
I imagine they would not be kids but adults over 18, no?
Posted on 12/30/19 at 1:46 pm to PeeJayScammedGT
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Your stupid azz saw the Movie Blue Chips and you think that a real life Happy Kuykendall is is paying for Athl Schollies
Geez dude here comes Nat X again.
Hey dumbfrick,you ever heard of "endowed athletic scholarships?"
Pick up program at any SEC FB game and the people who fund them are picture and listed.
You wanna guess the race and gender of 90% of em?
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FB & MBB are self supporting and aren't funded by rich white boosters
Why do Athletic Depts CONTINUALLY send out letters soliciting funds?
If you think FB and Basketball are self supporting because of TV revenue you're unbelievably mistaken.
How do you think athletic Depts are paying for new practice facilities?FB facilities?Baseball facilities?
Posted on 12/30/19 at 1:51 pm to RIPMachoMan
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I imagine they would not be kids but adults over 18, no?
Take away the TV contracts and its no longer a Multi-billion industry.
The kids are well compensated. Would you like for them to to pay taxes on whatever income they can derive from their athletic talents? Have you thought about potential financial implications for their families? Because, I don't think you have.
Posted on 12/30/19 at 1:59 pm to La Place Mike
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Because, I don't think you have.
If the athletes and their families are in favor of players getting compensated, why do you assume you know their circumstance better than they do? Do you think you are protecting them or know what would benefit their circumstance better than they do? Bizarre.
Posted on 12/30/19 at 2:12 pm to La Place Mike
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It's a multi-billion dollar industry because of TV contracts. Just putting this out there.
If some kid is lucky enough to get, lets say 250 Grand, for his likeness, or whatever, before he attends college to play football. That household would instantly jump up in tax bracket. If any kids in the family are on medicaid, well kiss that good bye. If another member of a family is going to college on a scholarship that is based on family income. Yep. Kiss that good bye. Housing subsidy? Sayonara! None of that goes away when the kid receives an academic scholarship even though that scholarship to a big time school is easily worth a plus or minus 100K.
Another consideration. What if Nike starts signing highs school kids to shoe contracts. Where would that kid feel obligated to go to school?
That player is an adult that would file his own separate Tax Return
His $250K wouldn't cause his poor family members to lose whatever they get based on their tax returns
So the players shouldn't get paid so they can keep the welfare benefits that they grew up depending on
All of Bama's players wear Nikes and so do LSU's and they're obligated to do so and under this racist azz system where the Coaches and the Athl Depts get all the money while the players have to wear certain brands of shoes
If it were truly an amateur model players could wear whatever shoe they felt like WITHOUT the trainer taping over it and painting a Nike stencil on top
In summary, any system where the players are getting more money is much better than the shytty system we have now
I wish Recruits that go to these SEC schools would actually read some of these posts and internalize how the fans think that they play in front of each week
"You want to stay poor kid, your household income will rise and you'll lose your welfare benefits, you wanna keep making white coaches rich instead of yourself......"
This post was edited on 12/30/19 at 2:21 pm
Posted on 12/30/19 at 2:17 pm to RIPMachoMan
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why do you assume you know their circumstance better than they do? Do you think you are protecting them or know what would benefit their circumstance better than they do?
Not bizarre because I never made that claim. The family is free to make any decision they want to make but there are consequences both good and bad they need to consider. I am only pointing out possible implications that could arise. You obviously haven't considered those consequences.
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