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re: SI ranks 5 SEC schools in top 10 college coaching jobs
Posted on 6/3/11 at 12:17 pm to MagillaGuerilla
Posted on 6/3/11 at 12:17 pm to MagillaGuerilla
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is it a top 10 job because of the coaching staff or the school?
Troop and Lupe put them over the top!
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Posted on 6/3/11 at 12:17 pm to molsusports
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And obviously I'm not listing schools based on success... Texas at #1 should make that obvious
I'm listing them in terms of best place for a great coach to dominate
Yeah, I can see your list as well. I don't see Oregon above Tenn, Auburn, Michigan despite the Nike money. Eugene is a great college town and having Nike is great, but they just are too far away from everywhere to have a great recruiting base. If TN produced more football talent regularly you'd have to move Tenn up higher as well, but unfortunately for them the state has kinda been low for that at least lately.
And too many people are equating past history with ability to dominate. The only reason I'd even still have ND in the top 10 is due to the catholic connection and name recognition. The don't have a great recruiting base otherwise and haven't done squat in 2 decades.
Posted on 6/3/11 at 12:17 pm to LouisianaSatNight
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Auburn is a bit high, that recent national title is a huge boost but you're forgetting the most important factor. Auburn is and always will be second in the state of Alabama, no way around that.
Did I see a different poll that had AU ranked ahead of UA?
Posted on 6/3/11 at 12:18 pm to chinese58
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I understood the Bama d.sucking of ND before Saban "revived" your storied program, but why now.
Jesus they hired a dude straight out of the fricking Big East to run the spread.
They would have been better off hiring Auburn's OC or Miss State's head coach. ND is in shambles and has been since Lou Holtz's days there.
Because Notre Dame has the facilities, history, recruiting base, and fan following to revive its program. I wouldn't overlook Bryan Kelly.
Posted on 6/3/11 at 12:20 pm to redandblack
I agree with the list except for UGA being at 5 when it should be around 10th.
Posted on 6/3/11 at 12:21 pm to ccomeaux
fixed for the people who don't understand coaching is a job first for the person who does it.
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Only a coach who wants to keep his job would think that way.
Posted on 6/3/11 at 12:22 pm to tbonebrah
Alabama a better job then ND,USC,Michigan and FSU?
Posted on 6/3/11 at 12:22 pm to auyushu
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The only reason I'd even still have ND in the top 10 is due to the catholic connection and name recognition. The don't have a great recruiting base otherwise and haven't done squat in 2 decades.
if you put them in the top ten then we don't disagree
they still have a national recruiting base tho - unlike most schools there remains a real national mystique about ND... even more than there is about other name programs like USC, OU, Florida
ND has the academic reputation angle too... it is the only top flight football school that is really considered a top academic school by the random person on the street (save it tOSU, USC, Florida etc fan... ND has a better academic reputation - fairly or not)
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Yeah, I can see your list as well. I don't see Oregon above Tenn, Auburn, Michigan despite the Nike money. Eugene is a great college town and having Nike is great, but they just are too far away from everywhere to have a great recruiting base.
Oregon is debatable with those schools... I think their money and what a nice part of the country it is (with more moderate weather than Michigan esp) raise it above the others... but it is a decent argument
Posted on 6/3/11 at 12:27 pm to redandblack
1. No way Ohio State and Oklahoma are better jobs than UF, bama, LSU, or UGa.
2. No way UGa is a better job than bama or LSU.
2. No way UGa is a better job than bama or LSU.
Posted on 6/3/11 at 12:28 pm to beatbammer
6. LSU
LSU edges Alabama because of only one factor. Alabama must fight Auburn for the best recruits in the state of Alabama. LSU has to fight no one for the best recruits in talent-rich Louisiana. Sure, out-of-state schools occasionally try to swoop in, but just as Ohio children grow up wanting to be Buckeyes and Georgia children grow up wanting to be Bulldogs, Louisiana children grow up wanting to be Tigers. Other than that, LSU and Alabama are about the same. Both programs rake in the cash and play in massive stadiums before deafening crowds. And in both places, if the coach can't keep his team in the hunt for the national title every year, people will start clamoring for a coach who will.
Georgia children grow up wanting to be Bulldogs, but end up going to AU!
LSU edges Alabama because of only one factor. Alabama must fight Auburn for the best recruits in the state of Alabama. LSU has to fight no one for the best recruits in talent-rich Louisiana. Sure, out-of-state schools occasionally try to swoop in, but just as Ohio children grow up wanting to be Buckeyes and Georgia children grow up wanting to be Bulldogs, Louisiana children grow up wanting to be Tigers. Other than that, LSU and Alabama are about the same. Both programs rake in the cash and play in massive stadiums before deafening crowds. And in both places, if the coach can't keep his team in the hunt for the national title every year, people will start clamoring for a coach who will.
Georgia children grow up wanting to be Bulldogs, but end up going to AU!
Posted on 6/3/11 at 12:31 pm to beatbammer
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1. No way Ohio State and Oklahoma are better jobs than UF, bama, LSU, or UGa.
2. No way UGa is a better job than bama or LSU.
You, like the vast majority of those posting on this thread, do not understand the topic.
Posted on 6/3/11 at 12:31 pm to beatbammer
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1. No way Ohio State and Oklahoma are better jobs than UF, bama, LSU, or UGa.
Oklahoma is absolutely a better job than Georgia. If Ohio State doesn't get raped by the NCAA, that's a better job, too.
Posted on 6/3/11 at 12:32 pm to ohiovol
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I realize that. Doesn't really change anything. If it wasn't for Cam Newton carrying Auburn to a national title, the author would have probably put Auburn around 17.
A moron (Tommy Tuberville) coached Auburn to an undefeated season in 2004. A blithering idiot (The Mildly Retarded Bowden) coached Auburn to an undefeated season in 1993.
I don't think Cam Newton was the QB for either one of those teams.
Posted on 6/3/11 at 12:33 pm to Rebelgator
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Wasn't trying to either.
Just pointing out that recent NC's aren't everything.
I should've worded my post better. I didn't mean that recent NC's were everything. I was genuinely curious to when their last one was
Posted on 6/3/11 at 12:34 pm to Xenonaut
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Georgia children grow up wanting to be Bulldogs, but those that cannot make the grade, end up going to Auburn
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Posted on 6/3/11 at 12:34 pm to Rebelgator
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However, if the average person walks into a room with coach from Auburn and Notre Dame the person will be more impressed with the ND coach. Notre Dame in a bad year is more prestigious than half that list on a good year.
For absolutely no rational reason that anyone can think of outside that lots of people (fans and media) are irrationally obsessed with them.
Notre Dame, outside of television coverage, has been virtually irrelevant in college football for quite some time.
Posted on 6/3/11 at 12:34 pm to beatbammer
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A moron (Tommy Tuberville) coached Auburn to an undefeated season in 2004. A blithering idiot (The Mildly Retarded Bowden) coached Auburn to an undefeated season in 1993.
I don't think Cam Newton was the QB for either one of those teams.
Tommy Tuberville is absolutely a better coach than Phil Fulmer, who won a national title at Tennessee.
Posted on 6/3/11 at 12:36 pm to beatbammer
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Notre Dame, outside of television coverage, has been virtually irrelevant in college football for quite some time.
And I think most of their national titles came prior to the existence of the Coaches Poll.
Posted on 6/3/11 at 12:36 pm to molsusports
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Oregon is debatable with those schools... I think their money and what a nice part of the country it is (with more moderate weather than Michigan esp) raise it above the others... but it is a decent argument
Oh I agree on the weather and general niceness, I almost moved to Eugene a couple years ago, that area of Oregon is pretty awesome. It's just too far from recruiting hotbeds to have a good built in recruiting base IMO. And people really don't realize how nice the weather is in that stretch between Eugene and Portland is unless they've been there.
But in those lists many of the groups are interchangeable. GA, LSU, Bama, and OK are all pretty even. FSU, ND, and PSU are pretty even. The schools from 11-16 are all pretty much neck and neck with different advantages to all.
And I agree on the ND mystique, the national recruiting power due to that is what makes them still a top 10 program (it's kinda what I meant with the catholic connection).
Posted on 6/3/11 at 12:36 pm to Xenonaut
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Georgia children grow up wanting to be Bulldogs
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