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re: Should TEBOW enter draft?
Posted on 1/7/09 at 10:39 pm to Etiger83
Posted on 1/7/09 at 10:39 pm to Etiger83
But do you think he would leave Florida and a chance at another ring and enter the draft as a TE/FB? I just think that senior year is worth more than being drafted in the second round as a FB/TE- not to mention that he might not even be the best TE or FB in the draft.
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Posted on 1/7/09 at 10:42 pm to PacoDeTaco
yes, they win, he leaves, Meyer will suggest he leaves while on top, Meyers ego is such that he thinks he can take another QB and turn him into the next great thing.
Posted on 1/7/09 at 10:44 pm to tubucoco
I think Tebow is smart enough to see that it's worth the wait to see if he can improve his QB stock for 2010.
Posted on 1/7/09 at 10:44 pm to PacoDeTaco
quote:No. I think he stays at Florida and goes down in history as one of the best players in college football history by potentially winning a third national championship. He gets drafted as a QB in the NFL and within 3 years is a starter. That's my prediction.
But do you think he would leave Florida and a chance at another ring and enter the draft as a TE/FB?
Posted on 1/7/09 at 10:48 pm to PacoDeTaco
I understand what your sayin but he won't improve his stock by stayin at UF another year, IMO, it will just be the same old spread bullshite and that will not make him any better.
he will be better served by going to the NFL and training with the experts there on whatever team he plays for and really learning how to be a QB, besides he's going to hold a clip board for a couple seasons, anyway.
he will be better served by going to the NFL and training with the experts there on whatever team he plays for and really learning how to be a QB, besides he's going to hold a clip board for a couple seasons, anyway.
Posted on 1/7/09 at 10:49 pm to StatMaster
I just don't see the guy starting on an NFL roster. He would have to transform his entire game. The spread is about as far as you can get from a pro-style offense, the better you are in the system the harder it is to change from it. Tebow is great at this system, as was Alex Smith- a major bust.
Posted on 1/7/09 at 10:50 pm to tubucoco
I see where your coming from, good point.
Posted on 1/7/09 at 10:54 pm to PacoDeTaco
I say if they win he is as good as gone. I think his stock in this years draft will be high and like I said if he wins he will have accomplished enough to want to leave.
Heisman, Maxwell, SEC and BCS champion. I think he would be done.
Heisman, Maxwell, SEC and BCS champion. I think he would be done.
Posted on 1/7/09 at 10:56 pm to LSU Fan Forever 13
I don't think it matters when he comes out. He's going to be a good QB on intangibles alone. He just needs 3-4 years playing behind a solid passer and he'll develop. If he gets drafted into the right situation, he'll bee very good.
Posted on 1/7/09 at 11:03 pm to PacoDeTaco
quote:Alex Smith went #1 and was high on a lot of draft boards, just because he is a bust doesn't mean NFL teams fear taking QBs that played in a spread offense. It won't help Tebow, but it won't hurt him as much as you are suggesting. The "experts" are not projecting him as an early pick based mostly on his mechanics and arm strength.
The spread is about as far as you can get from a pro-style offense, the better you are in the system the harder it is to change from it. Tebow is great at this system, as was Alex Smith- a major bust.
Posted on 1/7/09 at 11:13 pm to specs1
If the question is do I think Tebow is ready for the NFL then 'yes'. He reads defenses as well as anyone and seldom (and I mean seldom) makes bad decisions. Only thing kind of weak is his release doesn't seem that quick.
On the other hand, the competitor in me would love to see us get at least one more chance at beating him.
On the other hand, the competitor in me would love to see us get at least one more chance at beating him.
Posted on 1/7/09 at 11:24 pm to AlwysATgr
Don't see him leaving early. As some have already mentioned his stock in the draft wouldn't be a first rounder. Some (as McShay) have him as a FB/TE. Problem is others would be rated better for these positions in the draft. My guess is that scouts balk at him as a QB because he plays out of the spread. Thing is I've seen where pro teams use the spread now and then.
Posted on 1/7/09 at 11:56 pm to lsutigerfan14
i hope like crazy he's back...i want one more shot at him...remember we've made him cry once. besides i want to face the best...if we lose, we lose but the '07 florida game will always be remembered as one of the best, hope 09 will as well.
Posted on 1/8/09 at 1:05 am to nickelback
Guys, he's already said this game will have NO bearing on his decision. He's not going anywhere. I think the Ole Miss loss sealed that deal.
As said on here, to be the best, you must beat the best. College football is great with players like this. You have to enjoy them and hope for the best for them at another level.
And as also said, don't think for one minute that UM3 can't put UF in the NC game with a different QB. He's already done it, and he WILL do it again. LSU will just have to get used to the fact that UF will be competing with them for years to come for the right to play for the big game.
What hurts you guys, seriously, is the potential rise of 'Bama. Them being in your division seriously hurts you guys, admit it or not.
Look at our division. Who stands in our way right now? We don't have a 'Bama to contend with year in/year out. Thank god.
As said on here, to be the best, you must beat the best. College football is great with players like this. You have to enjoy them and hope for the best for them at another level.
And as also said, don't think for one minute that UM3 can't put UF in the NC game with a different QB. He's already done it, and he WILL do it again. LSU will just have to get used to the fact that UF will be competing with them for years to come for the right to play for the big game.
What hurts you guys, seriously, is the potential rise of 'Bama. Them being in your division seriously hurts you guys, admit it or not.
Look at our division. Who stands in our way right now? We don't have a 'Bama to contend with year in/year out. Thank god.
Posted on 1/8/09 at 1:21 am to SwampySteve
Tebow is an excellent college player that realizes his limited pro upside. He'd be a fool to come out early. He will not play qb at the next level
Posted on 1/8/09 at 1:43 am to StatMaster
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That being said, he's a hell of a leader and extremely motivated and if anyone will put in the time to improve their skills, it's Tebow
Me and a few other guys were talking about this yesterday...If I'm the GM for the detroit lions I take Tim Tebow with the number one pick. With the intangibles this guy brings he can single handedly change the entire organization. As for the people who say he won't be a good QB in the NFL, I hate to tell this guy he can't do something. This guy is a coach's dream because of the effort he puts in, his competitiveness, and his off the field work.
Posted on 1/8/09 at 2:55 am to geauxtigers2009
effort is great, but in the NFL you have to be talented. Talent, knowledge, and leadership are the most important things a successful NFL QB must possess. Tebow has leadership, and could develope the knowledge. I just don't see the guy ever making plays against NFL defenses. The guy is strong, but doesn't have a canon. Do you see him getting a better arm in the next 3-4 years?? I don't think that will change. He may come into games and do some good things, but the guy just isn't going to be a franchise QB.
Posted on 1/8/09 at 5:24 am to PacoDeTaco
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effort is great, but in the NFL you have to be talented. Talent, knowledge, and leadership are the most important things a successful NFL QB must possess. Tebow has leadership, and could develope the knowledge. I just don't see the guy ever making plays against NFL defenses. The guy is strong, but doesn't have a canon. Do you see him getting a better arm in the next 3-4 years?? I don't think that will change. He may come into games and do some good things, but the guy just isn't going to be a franchise QB.
yes he can make plays against the SEC's best which has defenses that have very close to the speed like the NFL. I think the fact that he has worked out of the spread is why a lot of people doubt him, but he's also making throws against the most athletic defenses in the country which says that he's used to facing it and can compensate for his not so strong arm. His arm will not get stronger, but i think his determination and experience will help him a lot more than people think.
Posted on 1/8/09 at 8:22 am to LSU Fan Forever 13
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I say if they win he is as good as gone. I think his stock in this years draft will be high and like I said if he wins he will have accomplished enough to want to leave.
Heisman, Maxwell, SEC and BCS champion. I think he would be done.
Agreed. Even drafted in the 2nd round, he'll receive enough money to build a school or small hospital in the Philippines and that is probably his long-term goal. He'll also have enough fame that a lot of folks will listen to what he says. I suspect that's more important to him in the long run than playing qb in the NFL.
Posted on 1/8/09 at 2:18 pm to specs1
I think Tebow is the kind of college player who really enjoys the college experience but if he does win the NC he will have accomplished everything he could hope to and I don't know why he would not enter the draft. Personally I see Tebow as a very accurate passer and I don't know why he would not go in the first round as a QB. Any pro team that gets him will basically have potential for a wild <insert team name> on every play.
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