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re: Should ATM hire Dan Mullen?
Posted on 11/17/17 at 9:58 am to Vecchio Cane
Posted on 11/17/17 at 9:58 am to Vecchio Cane
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Why don't SEC schools steal coaches more often?
it damn sure isn't due to our pussy assed comish. he does nothing to govern this conference.
the real answer is that it does happen but rarely. the reason is that all of the good SEC coaches make about the same money and have large buyouts. so it would be a huge investment and usually there are as good or better coaches elsewhere. everyone is high as hell on mullen because he has a good team but usually mullen is not highly regarded. he does a damn good job of haven't the occasional top team but his record against the better programs is not all that impressive. about the same as sumlins.
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Posted on 11/17/17 at 10:01 am to LSU GrandDad
Dan Mullen is an extremely popular choice with the fanbase. I'm just not sure where he stands with those making the decisions. It looks like Fisher is definitely priority number one, and then they work down the list
Knowing that Morris is basically the worst case scenario isn't bad at all
Knowing that Morris is basically the worst case scenario isn't bad at all
Posted on 11/17/17 at 10:12 am to TidalSurge1
Amazing to me that people are so convinced an SEC school will hire the HC of another SEC team, given that it hasn't happened in 2 decades.
I'm not sure when a top 15 salaried coach was last hired away period. Going to be a lot of sad pandas when you all hire coordinators and rising non P5 coaches.
I'm not sure when a top 15 salaried coach was last hired away period. Going to be a lot of sad pandas when you all hire coordinators and rising non P5 coaches.
This post was edited on 11/17/17 at 10:13 am
Posted on 11/17/17 at 10:19 am to ColoradoAg
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Looks like Fisher and Patterson are the frontrunners for the position. I'd be freaking thrilled with either one.
They should be. I'd be surpised if Fisher jumps there. Patterson certainly makes sense tho and is a home run hire.
This post was edited on 11/17/17 at 10:22 am
Posted on 11/17/17 at 10:21 am to TidalSurge1
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Reportedly his hat is in the ring for the Tennessee job.
Mullen can win bigger sooner at State than he can at Tennessee or A&M.
Posted on 11/17/17 at 10:23 am to TidalSurge1
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Tubbs from OM to AU.
The last time it happened, how long ago was that?
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Fran from UA to ATM
A&M wasn't an SEC School then
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Nutt from Ark to OM
come on mane, Nutt was on his way out at Ark.
You're going to have to do better than this.
Posted on 11/17/17 at 10:26 am to msu202020
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Mullen can win bigger sooner at State than he can at Tennessee or A&M.
That may be true, but in the mid/long-term, his prospects for winning bigger seem better at ATM and UT.
This post was edited on 11/17/17 at 10:27 am
Posted on 11/17/17 at 10:28 am to TidalSurge1
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but in the mid-long term his prospects
Mullen's long-term prospect involves kicking back and following his son on the PGA Tour in 10-15 years.
I'm only kinda kidding
Posted on 11/17/17 at 10:29 am to TidalSurge1
Mullen won’t leave MSU for another school in the West. Besides, the whole Scientology deal wouldn’t fly at Texas A&M.
Posted on 11/17/17 at 10:30 am to TidalSurge1
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his prospects for winning bigger seem better at ATM and UT.
Or does he rebuild, only avg 8 wins a season in his first four getting the foundation built his way and get fired?
Like him or not, Mullen does things his way and it takes time. Time just about every other program in the SEC has proven they don't give.
Posted on 11/17/17 at 10:31 am to Mr. Elvert
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the whole Scientology deal wouldn’t fly at Texas A&M.
No room for another cult in College Station?
Posted on 11/17/17 at 10:34 am to TidalSurge1
We could do worse, but I would like to do a lot better.
Posted on 11/17/17 at 10:34 am to msu202020
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You're going to have to do better than this.
I totally agree that it has hardly happened. But that hardly means it can't or wont.
As another poster pointed out, today's big buyouts are a big reason most schools hire from the fired HC, coordinator or lower-tier HC pools.
Posted on 11/17/17 at 10:35 am to Mr. Elvert
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the whole Scientology deal wouldn’t fly at Texas A&M.
He really is?!?!
Posted on 11/17/17 at 10:39 am to TidalSurge1
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As another poster pointed out, today's big buyouts are a big reason most schools hire from the fired HC, coordinator or lower-tier HC pools.
Agree, Mullen's new contract this year will also pay him 6 Million a year.
In the days of Tubby and his pine box, Ole Miss and State weren't paying salaries that were comparable to the Big 6.
It's a different time now.
Posted on 11/17/17 at 10:40 am to Farmer1906
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We could do worse, but I would like to do a lot better.
This is why you will end up with Chad Morris. Not like that is a bad thing. He has the potential to be a solid coach.
Posted on 11/17/17 at 10:41 am to msu202020
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Or does he rebuild, only avg 8 wins a season in his first four getting the foundation built his way and get fired?
Like him or not, Mullen does things his way and it takes time. Time just about every other program in the SEC has proven they don't give.
Are the rosters at ATM & UT that bad? Are they daunting rebuild projects? Sumlin and Butch were given enough time to implement their systems and completely fill their rosters to fit their systems. They both underachieved relative to what is achievable there.
After four years the trend should be upward and on track with reasonable expectations. Butch and Sumlin haven't gotten that done. Hard to argue that they just need more time.
If Mullen has confidence he can meet reasonable expectations at ATM or UT he shouldn't be scared to make the move.
This post was edited on 11/17/17 at 10:52 am
Posted on 11/17/17 at 10:45 am to TidalSurge1
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Are the rosters at ATM & UT that bad?
I don't know. I do know A&M looked weak in several places when we played them this year. TN looks like a dumpster fire.
Mullen builds his teams a certain way, it takes time.
Posted on 11/17/17 at 10:45 am to msu202020
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This is why you will end up with Chad Morris. Not like that is a bad thing. He has the potential to be a solid coach.
I would rather have Morris than Mullen. We see what Mullen is for better or worse. Morris is an unknown. He may be better. He may be worse. I'm willing to find out if we strike out vs the best.
Posted on 11/17/17 at 10:48 am to Farmer1906
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He really is?!?!
This was part of the first wave of narrative floated out by OlMiss fanbois back in Mullen's early days. Also included:
-Megan Mullen hates Starkville and is living with her parents out of state
-State fans hate Yankee Mullen and he's a Scientologist. Just a matter of time.
-Mullen's image is artificially inflated by one of the national sportswriters ( I forget his name) who was a childhood friend of Mullens. Said sportswriter is 10+ years younger than Mullen and grew up 2 states away
. But hey, all Yankees from New England are the same
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