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re: SEC teams odds to win 2012-2013 BCS championship
Posted on 4/16/12 at 2:45 pm to CapstoneGrad06
Posted on 4/16/12 at 2:45 pm to CapstoneGrad06
We only need 2, not the whole damn top 5
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Posted on 4/16/12 at 2:46 pm to chilld28
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MetryTyger at his finest Posted today on the Tiger Rant
Rantards gonna rantard, of course.
Posted on 4/16/12 at 2:46 pm to meldawg399
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Bama was not relying on their own play down the stretch of the season to get them in the title game. They needed the other teams to lose to get in. Had anyone else gone undefeated (including probably Boise), Bama would've had fun in the Sugar Bowl with Michigan.
Alabama did not control their own destiny. They needed luck to get in (or other "weaker" teams to lose). They wouldn't have deserved to be in the game minus all 119 other teams in the country losing.
The point is, they did lose because they were not the better teams. That wasn't luck, that was the process weeding out the lesser teams. (Yeah, I knew I'd find a way to work the "Process" in somewhere) Alabama however, being the best team in the country, outweighed the L they had on their record and was able to get into the BCSNCG because of that.
Yes, luck played a part, but so did the inferiority of the other teams in question.
Posted on 4/16/12 at 2:47 pm to Outlaw
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We only need 2, not the whole damn top 5
you needed a year in which only one top 5 team had fewer than two losses going into the bowl games. Care to guess how many times that has happened in the history of the polls?
Posted on 4/16/12 at 2:48 pm to ThaKaptin
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Alabama however, being the best team in the country, outweighed the L they had on their record and was able to get into the BCSNCG because of that.
Yeah, it seems that in these arguments, people neglect to weigh a three point loss to the consensus #1 team in the country against an overtime loss to Southwest Dumpster Fire State.
If failure has to be rewarded, should we reward the greater or least failure?
This post was edited on 4/16/12 at 2:50 pm
Posted on 4/16/12 at 2:50 pm to ThaKaptin
Oh so your saying that if they went undefeated Alabama still would have jumped them? Yeah ok.
Posted on 4/16/12 at 2:53 pm to Outlaw
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Oh so your saying that if they went undefeated Alabama still would have jumped them? Yeah ok.
I don't believe for a split second that if Stanford or Okie Lite had gone undefeated we would have jumped them. In fact, prior to that fateful week, I had resigned myself to the idea that we would be playing in the Sugar Bowl and getting ridiculed on the SECr for the entire offseason.
That being said, of course, all three teams lost one game each. In that case, it's a simple matter of weighing the losses against each other and picking the lesser of [three] evils.
Posted on 4/16/12 at 2:53 pm to ThaKaptin
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The point is, they did lose because they were not the better teams. That wasn't luck, that was the process weeding out the lesser teams. (Yeah, I knew I'd find a way to work the "Process" in somewhere) Alabama however, being the best team in the country, outweighed the L they had on their record and was able to get into the BCSNCG because of that.
Yes, luck played a part, but so did the inferiority of the other teams in question.
OkSt lost one game after a major tragedy and beat several other better teams proving it was a fluke. They won their conference and the lack of common opponents means nothing was proven at that point as to who was better. Except the retarded "eyeball test".
As much as Bama can talk about their "strength of loss"
so can Ok St talk about their "strength of wins". I think who you beat means more than who you lose to. Any given Saturday and all that jazz.Posted on 4/16/12 at 2:56 pm to TigerKnights
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OkSt lost one game after a major tragedy
Well, perhaps Northeastern Dumpster Fire State should have forfeited their game or at least postponed it long enough for the poor players to have a little time to grieve. Stop making excuses for people.
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As much as Bama can talk about their "strength of loss" so can Ok St talk about their "strength of wins". I think who you beat means more than who you lose to. Any given Saturday and all that jazz.
Except one is in your control (who you lose to) and one isn't (who you beat). The players don't make the schedules. Their job is to go out there and win.
If you can't control the controllables, why do you deserve to go?
Posted on 4/16/12 at 3:02 pm to TigerKnights
I blame the Okie Lite kicker. That ball went directly over the upright, and I've actually seen that exact trajectory called good before.
However, had that ball gone through, I still wouldn't have thought they were one of the two best teams in the country.
Now, back to butthurt, gumps, corndogs, teabags, crying, etc...
However, had that ball gone through, I still wouldn't have thought they were one of the two best teams in the country.
Now, back to butthurt, gumps, corndogs, teabags, crying, etc...
Posted on 4/16/12 at 3:05 pm to Party At LSU
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However, had that ball gone through, I still wouldn't have thought they were one of the two best teams in the country.
And neither would anyone in the country who is willing to be honest with themselves. The simple fact of the matter is that the two best teams in the entire nation last year came from the same division of the same conference. The rest of the world needs to learn how to fricking deal with how much arse we kick.
The press wanted a feelgood story and (some) LSU fans wanted a cupcake NCG, which is precisely what they would have gotten with Okie State or Stanford.
This post was edited on 4/16/12 at 3:06 pm
Posted on 4/16/12 at 3:07 pm to TigerKnights
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Tell that to the Saints. Do you think the Giants were the best NFL team? Do you think the Saints wouldn't have stomped them in the Dome and then beat the brakes off the Pats?
In the BCS the regular season is the playoffs so you shouldn't have got a second chance, better team or not. You should have been knocked out. That is simply the truth. If our shutout game had come on November 5th and our good game on January 9th the roles would be reversed. You got rewarded for losing at home plain and simple.
This isnt the NFL, this is college ball. And the reason we love it so much is BECAUSE its not played like the NFL. You can use saints analogies all you want but they are irrelevant to the discussion because the systems are different in every way possible.
In college, we put the 2 best teams in the country together for 1 big blowout (pun intended) for all the marbles. That's what happened, and your team didnt get the marbles (which really sucks because your coach looked like he had lost all of his during the game.)
Posted on 4/16/12 at 3:08 pm to cyde
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LSU fans wanted a cupcake NCG, which is precisely what they would have gotten with Okie State or Stanford.
I thought that too, until I saw our gameplan unfold.
Posted on 4/16/12 at 3:11 pm to Party At LSU
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I thought that too, until I saw our gameplan unfold.
Of course, against Okie State or Stanford, Lesticles would have had a completely different game plan and probably would have blown either team completely out of New Orleans, and we both know that.
This post was edited on 4/16/12 at 3:12 pm
Posted on 4/16/12 at 3:12 pm to Party At LSU
No, we would have killed both of those no matter what plays we ran.
Posted on 4/16/12 at 3:13 pm to Outlaw
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Oh so your saying that if they went undefeated Alabama still would have jumped them? Yeah ok.
No. Are you fricking dense? I'm saying that the "if" you are talking about didnt happen because they were inferior teams. Had they been better teams, then they wouldnt have lost.
Man, you need to work on your spin skills cause you cant even do that shite right.
Posted on 4/16/12 at 3:30 pm to cyde
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The press wanted a feelgood story and (some) LSU fans wanted a cupcake NCG, which is precisely what they would have gotten with Okie State or Stanford.
Everyone wanted it except Bama. Like you said the two best teams came from the same division of the same conference. Which means 11/5 was basically the NC. You had your shot and we came out on top.
Flip the games. We play OkSt on 11/5 and go undefeated then beat you AT HOME on 1/9 and do you still get a mulligan? Of course not. The season was over except your coach whined and cried about fairness. What about fairness to LSU who had already pulled off the (admitted upset) over Bama and gone 13-0? We then have an extra game and have to replay our toughest game of the season after giving you a chance to gameplan against us, a bye week, and putting us at a distinct disadvantage since we were playing with a major handicap. Namely Jordan fricking Jefferson. He is only good once when you don't expect him and even then it was for a 9-6 tough win in OT. We didn't stand a chance round 2.
In any case we have an offense this year so like the poster on page 1 said I'd be shocked if we don't win the NC this time. Neither Bama nor USC will stop us.
Posted on 4/16/12 at 3:41 pm to TigerKnights
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We didn't stand a chance round 2.
Yet all we heard before the game was that Bama didn't stand a chance. LSU doesn't lose in NO. Bama fans are delusional if they think they can win.
Posted on 4/16/12 at 3:44 pm to bamaboy87
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Yet all we heard before the game was that Bama didn't stand a chance. LSU doesn't lose in NO. Bama fans are delusional if they think they can win.
So what. We heard the same thing and insert Tuscaloosa for N.O. before Nov. 5th.
It's amazing the piss-fest this has become when it should have just been about the odds the OP posted. Actually, it's not that amazing.
Posted on 4/16/12 at 3:48 pm to Party At LSU
I'm not even going to respond to TigerKnights because, after all, Rantards gonna Rantard.
Take LSU fans, Alabama fans, mix in "1/9," "11/5" or even the letters 'n' and 'c' and you pretty much get diarrhea on this board anymore.
It's fricking pathetic, really.
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It's amazing the piss-fest this has become when it should have just been about the odds the OP posted. Actually, it's not that amazing.
Take LSU fans, Alabama fans, mix in "1/9," "11/5" or even the letters 'n' and 'c' and you pretty much get diarrhea on this board anymore.
It's fricking pathetic, really.
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