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Posted on 7/14/15 at 5:56 pm to Stir of Echoes
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I never said I disagreed with anything other than your comment.
What comment of mine did you disagree with? I'm not looking for a "meet me at Sonic" thread with anyone including you but you either misunderstood my post or you latched onto something that I have no idea what it is.
Posted on 7/14/15 at 5:57 pm to Stir of Echoes
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Scrooster, every once in awhile I agree with something you say. It's very strange.
The Attention Whore Syndrome is real. I think it speaks more to the narcissism of this generation within the culture than it is adhering to an agenda.
I don't think the Narcissistic Generation has any agenda other than themselves.
... then on that, we may agree. You put it very well btw. Upvoted.
Posted on 7/14/15 at 6:07 pm to JesusQuintana
I heard he is gay
Posted on 7/14/15 at 6:09 pm to borotiger
Jesus H. Christ, dude.
THIS RIGHT HERE. I frickING DISAGREED WITH YOUR frickING COMMENT ABOUT ESPN AND THE LIBERAL frickING MEDIA!
Got it now?
THIS RIGHT HERE. I frickING DISAGREED WITH YOUR frickING COMMENT ABOUT ESPN AND THE LIBERAL frickING MEDIA!
Got it now?
Posted on 7/14/15 at 6:12 pm to scrooster
RE: the whole "attention whore" thing
I think it's pretty hard for a man in his early 20's that is getting pulled in so many directions to say no. You've got an entire community touting you as an ambassador and your going to turn down interviews? I doubt it. What exactly was attention whoring in his actions? Maybe the dancing with the Stars thing. Aside from that? He did turn down the Oprah documentary after the Rams asked him to btw. Should he not have accepted the Arthur Ashe award? Should he not have participated in this SEC Storied? Please. Are Walker or Bo attention whores for doing them?
It's not his fault the media pushed the story.
I think it's pretty hard for a man in his early 20's that is getting pulled in so many directions to say no. You've got an entire community touting you as an ambassador and your going to turn down interviews? I doubt it. What exactly was attention whoring in his actions? Maybe the dancing with the Stars thing. Aside from that? He did turn down the Oprah documentary after the Rams asked him to btw. Should he not have accepted the Arthur Ashe award? Should he not have participated in this SEC Storied? Please. Are Walker or Bo attention whores for doing them?
It's not his fault the media pushed the story.
Posted on 7/14/15 at 6:15 pm to Stir of Echoes
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Jesus H. Christ, dude.
THIS RIGHT HERE. I frickING DISAGREED WITH YOUR frickING COMMENT ABOUT ESPN AND THE LIBERAL frickING MEDIA!
Got it now?
Look Einstein, I was responding to the post DIRECTLY above mine to the poster who said "liberal media" in a sentence about ESPN.
Can you read his post, then mine and calm the frick down. Ask a friend to explain it to you if you're still confused.
Posted on 7/14/15 at 6:19 pm to JesusQuintana
It's not that he got into those things, for me it's that he did it before he became established in the NFL.
He could have easily told everyone, "I've done what needed to be done, now I need to focus on my career. I'll become a spokesman when the time is right."
The pressures from the gay community and media certainly couldn't have been easy to navigate, but if you're a dude focused on making a team, and becoming more than just the first openly gay football player, you tune all that out and get to work.
He hasn't, and that is what has derailed his track, at least outwardly.
I thought he deserved to make the Rams squad, he played well enough in the preseason, but the hype was ridiculous for a last round pick. That's what cost him.
It's a shame that all the peripheral stuff cost him, but it did, and some of it is his own fault.
He could have easily told everyone, "I've done what needed to be done, now I need to focus on my career. I'll become a spokesman when the time is right."
The pressures from the gay community and media certainly couldn't have been easy to navigate, but if you're a dude focused on making a team, and becoming more than just the first openly gay football player, you tune all that out and get to work.
He hasn't, and that is what has derailed his track, at least outwardly.
I thought he deserved to make the Rams squad, he played well enough in the preseason, but the hype was ridiculous for a last round pick. That's what cost him.
It's a shame that all the peripheral stuff cost him, but it did, and some of it is his own fault.
Posted on 7/14/15 at 6:32 pm to Stir of Echoes
I don't disagree at all but my point was that it would be damn near impossible, at his age, to avoid the pressure that was being placed on him from the gay community to be a figurehead, activist, whatever.
No one on this board has been subject to that situation which puts all here in no position to judge imo.
No one on this board has been subject to that situation which puts all here in no position to judge imo.
Posted on 7/14/15 at 6:34 pm to JesusQuintana
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RE: the whole "attention whore" thing
I think it's pretty hard for a man in his early 20's that is getting pulled in so many directions to say no. You've got an entire community touting you as an ambassador and your going to turn down interviews? I doubt it. What exactly was attention whoring in his actions? Maybe the dancing with the Stars thing. Aside from that? He did turn down the Oprah documentary after the Rams asked him to btw. Should he not have accepted the Arthur Ashe award? Should he not have participated in this SEC Storied? Please. Are Walker or Bo attention whores for doing them?
It's not his fault the media pushed the story.
Are you seriously comparing Sam to Bo and Herschel?
George Rogers won a Heisman. I know him personally ... very well. His youth was every bit as tough as Sam's, if not moreso. Abject poverty - tough tough upbringing.
He wins the Heisman, goes to the NFL, is Rookie of the Year, wins the rushing title as a rookie behind a bad NO OLine on a shitty team that year ... ask Archie.
Gets into cocaine, drinking, women ... problems ensue.
He's been asked 100 times to do a story about his rise, fall and comeback and life since football. He turns them all down because he relishes his privacy, doesn't need the attention. Loves his fans and we love him.
Sam should play it that way and quietly fade away from the limelight because it will not end well for him otherwise.
I do actually know a ton of the LBGT community and they know I support them ... most of them are not fans of Sam, for a reason.
I've given a lot of money to a particular school, a cause, at USC. Well into five digits, it'll probably go six digits over the course of the next two years because it's a worthy cause for good people.
I was recently at a private event, sat with President Pastides for awhile .... talked to a lot of people about how things are out there these days. Almost all of them, to a person, thought the initial Sam thing was good ... but since it has become a carnival show and this ESPN/Disney thing is going to take it over the top I'll bet you.
It'll be about, "The racist South, the SEC, the yada yada yada ..." and it's all bullshite.
BTW, proof of what I am talking about. As I was sitting there I thought - this will come-up one day. So I scribed a special little thing on my program for the SECr ...
See the writing on the upper left hand corner?
Look closer ....
That meant to everyone who really truly believes me to be a homophobe (sp), when in fact I probably do more, have done more, in my lifetime for their true cause ... those that just want to live normal lives ... that means, frick everybody who really believes I am a homophobe (sp). I'm not. But what I am is an older man who really fricking despises attention whores ... especially those that use my beloved South or my beloved SEC as the podium from which to bully pulpit their fricking agenda.
Keep the goshdamn politics outta of our fricking sport.
Is there a label for that?
Posted on 7/14/15 at 7:08 pm to JesusQuintana
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SEC Storied "Sam"
So they are celebrating a guy because he has male to male anal sex and male to male penis licking?
What a bunch of sick freaks.
First SEC football player to turn into a Tranny is also a national hero.
This post was edited on 7/14/15 at 9:27 pm
Posted on 7/15/15 at 7:58 am to Iron Lion
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Savage is right. And Sam hedged his bet when he came out of the closet. He knew he wouldn't get drafted on his ability so he knew the league would make a team draft him in order to dodge the liberal media shite storm if he didn't.
This has been my stance all along.
Posted on 7/15/15 at 8:00 am to JesusQuintana
Story will be about how not to play in the NFL?
Posted on 7/15/15 at 8:02 am to Stir of Echoes
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and becoming more than just the first openly gay football player
He's not the first openly gay football player, in the SEC or the NFL.
Posted on 7/15/15 at 9:36 am to JesusQuintana
Y'all are missing the point. It's not that he is gay. It's that he is a large BLACK man and he is gay. If the first openly gay collegiate player had been a white kicker from Vanderbilt, no one would give a shite, but because he is black and a lineman, it is a story. It is one of the most stunning examples a reverse racism that I have seen in a while and it is acceptable to the MSM because it has to do with homosexuality.
Posted on 7/15/15 at 10:06 am to JesusQuintana
ESPN will not let Sam go away until there is another fanny bandit in the NFL
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