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re: SEC Storied "Croom"...Anybody watching?

Posted on 9/26/12 at 3:14 am to
Posted by Requiem For A Dawg
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Posted on 9/26/12 at 3:14 am to
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Posted by MontyFranklyn
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Posted on 9/26/12 at 6:20 am to
Because Dan Mullen is doing soooooo much better as a head coach. What is his record in the west again? If you try really hard this year State, get plenty of rest and drink all of your milk, you can possibly finish 3rd in the west this year. I believe in you.
Posted by genro
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Posted on 9/26/12 at 6:25 am to
Yes, I'm sure. Jackson got involved and talked before the decision was made, despite what wikipedia says.
Posted by PeaRidgeWatash
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Posted on 9/26/12 at 6:25 am to
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The board had decided on Croom. Then Jesse comes down and demands that we hire him or we're all a bunch of racists. The board then decided it wasn't going to appear to be pushed around by race-baiters, and went with Shula.



Bear Bryant wanted Croom to be a pallbearer at his funeral. If the board, really was goingto hire Croom and they didn't b/c of Jackson, then they are ignorant as hell. Granted, the UoA wasn't very good at PR back then, but that situation could have been easily handled to where UoA could have looked really good.
Posted by genro
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Posted on 9/26/12 at 6:28 am to
I think it was a smart move by the board.

Once Jackson says something, the entire hire is suspect. For his entire tenure, it would've appeared that he was only hired because he was black. Every possible criticism would come back to that, "he was only hired because Jackson demanded it." It also would've made the board look like pussies.

I think they made the right decision.
This post was edited on 9/26/12 at 6:28 am
Posted by genro
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Posted on 9/26/12 at 6:34 am to
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You do not honestly believe that.
I know this to be true.
Posted by LBC
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Posted on 9/26/12 at 6:39 am to
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Because Dan Mullen is doing soooooo much better as a head coach. What is his record in the west again? If you try really hard this year State, get plenty of rest and drink all of your milk, you can possibly finish 3rd in the west this year. I believe in you.



Mullen had as many wins in his first three years asCroom did in five with half as many losses. Mullen doesn't have a Maine type game in his career. Mullen has two winning seasons out of three instead of one winning season out of five. He may not be Saban or Miles, but he sure as hell is better than Croom.
Posted by More Cowbell 1963
Houston, MS
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 9/26/12 at 6:57 am to
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I'm still waiting on us to press charges on him for stealing from us. He is the laziest piece of shite in the nation. He fell asleep in a recruits house, he left recruiting visits on the table several times, he said he would have to be fired before he would fire any of his coaches, he said Maine was a better team than us, he would sit his arse on a golf cart all practice, he help me witness the worst beat downs I've ever seen. I actually hoped Ole Miss beat us as bad as they could in that last Egg Bowl. I knew that was the only way we would get rid of him.


^^^This^^^

I didn't give a shite about his skin pigment. I only cared what kind of HC he was. Mullen had one WR on scholarship when he came to town. One!! There was some NFL talent in some areas even it wasn't properly developed. Thing is, Croom had no clue how to recruit to a balanced team. If he did know then he was just too lazy to care. Good man? I don't know him personally. I knew that I liked what I saw early on and I even tried to believe and I always supported him until that last season.

He lost the team and the fan base. Mullen has revived it.

Oh, and you can win at STATE and Mullen is about to prove it. Gotta believe!
Posted by MontyFranklyn
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Posted on 9/26/12 at 7:04 am to
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Mullen had as many wins in his first three years asCroom did in five with half as many losses. Mullen doesn't have a Maine type game in his career. Mullen has two winning seasons out of three instead of one winning season out of five. He may not be Saban or Miles, but he sure as hell is better than Croom.

Either way, you aren't winning the SEC and finishing no better than 3rd in the west this year. You are who you are, with or without Croom
Posted by Al Bundy Bulldog
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Posted on 9/26/12 at 7:21 am to
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Because Dan Mullen is doing soooooo much better as a head coach. What is his record in the west again? If you try really hard this year State, get plenty of rest and drink all of your milk, you can possibly finish 3rd in the west this year. I believe in you.


So you think we should of stuck with Croom?
Posted by nc14
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Posted on 9/26/12 at 7:21 am to
What math are you using?
Posted by Al Bundy Bulldog
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Posted on 9/26/12 at 7:24 am to
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Either way, you aren't winning the SEC and finishing no better than 3rd in the west this year. You are who you are, with or without Croom


Croom's teams lost to the likes of Maine, Tulane, UAB, etc

They also were blown out very often even at home.

Mullen's worst loss is the 31-3 loss to Bama when they won the national championship 2 years ago.

Mullen's teams have been competitive during his tenure.
Posted by Slippery Slope
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 9/26/12 at 7:24 am to
That's fricking dumb.

And you're fricking dumb if you can't see the massive improvements our PROGRAM has made since we got rid of that black hole of excitement.
Posted by UpstateCock2007
Columbia, SC
Member since Mar 2009
7738 posts
Posted on 9/26/12 at 7:28 am to
I watched it. Was more impressed with Croom from the show than I was his coaching. I felt like he honestly cared about all of his players, not just from a football standpoint but in life as well.
Posted by MontyFranklyn
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Posted on 9/26/12 at 7:43 am to
Dan Mullen can beat the 4 weak OOC opponents and the likes of Vandy, Kentucky and Ole Miss. Outside of Ole Miss, Auburn is the first team he beat in the west and that took him 4 years. You are more competitive but ask yourselves this, in the SEC is there really a difference in finishing 4-7 in the west? You honestly know that the closest you are getting to a title is when you make that hour and a half trip to Tuscaloosa the last weekend in Nov.
Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 9/26/12 at 8:07 am to
MontyFranklyn <------This fricking guy here. Right here.

Posted by Allyn McKeen
Key West, FL
Member since Jun 2012
4479 posts
Posted on 9/26/12 at 8:21 am to
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Been by FAR the best MSU coach ever on hiring assistants.


Darrell Royal disagrees.
Posted by engie
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 9/26/12 at 8:42 am to
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Darrell Royal disagrees.


Was at State two whole seasons over 30 years before I was born. Who was on that staff?
Posted by LSUMastermind
South Florida
Member since Jun 2008
897 posts
Posted on 9/26/12 at 8:54 am to
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You are who you are


realest shite said in this thread.
Posted by bayou2003
Mah-zur-ree (417)
Member since Oct 2003
17646 posts
Posted on 9/26/12 at 8:56 am to
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Dan Mullen can beat the 4 weak OOC opponents and the likes of Vandy, Kentucky and Ole Miss. Outside of Ole Miss, Auburn is the first team he beat in the west and that took him 4 years. You are more competitive but ask yourselves this, in the SEC is there really a difference in finishing 4-7 in the west? You honestly know that the closest you are getting to a title is when you make that hour and a half trip to Tuscaloosa the last weekend in Nov.


But hey Mississippi State is on the rise!!!
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