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re: SEC Divisions - Yes or No?

Posted on 9/12/24 at 10:03 am to
Posted by bamabaseballsec
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Posted on 9/12/24 at 10:03 am to
Go ahead separate from ncaa play an autonomous 10 game sec only schedule, maybe an fcs tune up game week 1. Let the big ten do the same have a sec big only playoff. Everyone keeps rivalries they want and rotates the rest.
Posted by MtVernon
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Posted on 9/12/24 at 10:04 am to
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hy wouldn't you put same-state schools together (Tx./TA&M & Ala./Aub.)?


Because pods cause unnecessary separation. Even though they are fun to daydream about.
This post was edited on 9/12/24 at 11:36 am
Posted by southernboisb
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Posted on 9/12/24 at 10:06 am to
HOW OFTEN did we hear the same about Miss., MSU, & Ark.?
Posted by southernboisb
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Posted on 9/12/24 at 10:10 am to
WHY should DSOR be "every other year"? Make TSIO "every other year". Make the Egg Bowl "every other year". Make the Red River "every other year".
This post was edited on 9/12/24 at 10:11 am
Posted by MtVernon
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Posted on 9/12/24 at 10:11 am to
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WHY should DSOR be "every other year"? Make TSIO "every other year". Make the Egg Bowl "every other year". Make the Ted River "every other year".


Or use 2 divisions and not pods.
This post was edited on 9/12/24 at 11:21 am
Posted by bamabaseballsec
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 9/12/24 at 10:15 am to
I’ve never heard that about those schools. But if you’re lumping arky ole miss and vandy together better add mizzou usce and Kentucky to the list. Which is still a one game advantage. But no one here outside of you thinks vandy arky ole miss and miss st are playing the same game.
Posted by southernboisb
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Posted on 9/12/24 at 10:15 am to
& us 4 SEC (East) teams have in-state ACC rivals we play annually.
This post was edited on 9/12/24 at 10:17 am
Posted by southernboisb
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Posted on 9/12/24 at 10:21 am to
SEC W fans liked to say Tn./Vandy/SC/Kent. were "easy games".

SEC E fans liked to rebut with Miss./MSU/Ark. as "instant W's".
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 9/12/24 at 10:58 am to
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Why wouldn't you put same-state schools together (Tx./TA&M & Ala./Aub.


Because expansion screwed that up and every option has a trade off.

Texas' bigger rival is Oklahoma, not A&M anyway. Arkansas is a better fit for the NW group than A&M seeing as they are the geographic central team of the NW (next to Missouri, Oklahoma, and Texas). It just screws up the geography, balance of pods, and rotations (giving either Arkansas or Ole Miss too many fixed big six out of pod opponents).

Similarly Auburn instead of Kentucky in the NE moves Auburn away from Georgia and Florida and moves Kentucky (the northern most team from the NE away from their geographic neighbors including Tennessee - their most important game to keep).

The eight conference games option keeps all the rivalry games four years of six and the nine conference game option keeps all of them every year, although that comes with the trade off of more unequal home and away games. On the balance I like the eight game option but whatever.
Posted by N0T SURE
Member since Dec 2023
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Posted on 9/12/24 at 11:39 am to
I look at it like what it's turning into...the nfl isn't going to schedule the Atlanta falcons to play arkansas pine bluff, because only some falcons fans will watch....but when they play the Dallas Cowboys the entire country watches...thats part of what makes that league work....rarely is there a game that doesn't matter, which gives value to tv contracts. (Not to mention more people bet on bigger matchups)
Posted by MtVernon
Member since Jul 2024
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Posted on 9/12/24 at 11:48 am to
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.the nfl isn't going to schedule the Atlanta falcons to play arkansas pine bluff,


The SEC is now caught in a quandary. The networks want games people will watch. OTOH, the SEC wants to rig the schedule to minimize losses. We call that "chicken shite" in Texas.

The first step is to ban FCS opponents. Playing an FCS is flat out ridiculous and shameless. That should be an automatic, but I guarantee you most SEC schools will cry about it.

There is a LONG list of FBS programs to schedule. No excuse for lining up FCS massacres. Chicken-shite.
Posted by N0T SURE
Member since Dec 2023
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Posted on 9/12/24 at 1:01 pm to
In reality, what's at stake here is the perfect season...theres a reason why the dolphins aren't really worried about that ever being beaten....it's because you are playing real teams every week of the season.
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 9/12/24 at 1:06 pm to
I agree that pods (& some division) formats will require creative schedules to keep those games.

I also agree that an even conf. # is balanced, but what is that #? 8 seems too low, but 10 gives UGA/Fl./SC/Kent. only 1 open slot for anybody due to our in-state ACC rivals being game 11.
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
8587 posts
Posted on 9/12/24 at 1:08 pm to
That's an unfair comparison due to NFL only plays NFL.
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
8587 posts
Posted on 9/12/24 at 1:10 pm to
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The SEC is now caught in a quandary. The networks want games people will watch. OTOH, the SEC wants to rig the schedule to minimize losses. We call that "chicken shite" in Texas.


& yet you're in the SEC.
Posted by ChadThundercock
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Posted on 9/12/24 at 1:41 pm to
I made this a few years ago when they announced Texas and OU. Mix and match however you like but it will likely look something like this once they make the announcement to go to 9 conference games.

This post was edited on 9/12/24 at 1:45 pm
Posted by N0T SURE
Member since Dec 2023
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Posted on 9/12/24 at 1:53 pm to
I'm saying that's where we are headed....too much money at stake to waste 3 weeks of a 12 week season on games that don't add to contract value. And furthermore, georgia playing arkansas pinebluff is like Atlanta playing a college team....not even close in talent.
Posted by GoGators1995
Member since Jan 2023
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Posted on 9/12/24 at 2:04 pm to
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Which is it: the past "East was too easy" & now "More top heavy"?

Huh? You have me confused with someone else.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 9/12/24 at 2:10 pm to
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too much money at stake to waste 3 weeks of a 12 week season on games that don't add to contract value.


That part is the network's doing

We could do 10 conference games if it paid enough more. ESPN so far has said they will pay no extra money for the extra content. In part because their revenue model is under a lot of stress and in part because they have a lot of weekly content already with 16 teams playing eight games.

The filler games are more of a revenue source than many people suspect too. Clearing several million (that you share relatively little of)is no problem with a stadium and parking plus concessions for over 90k
Posted by N0T SURE
Member since Dec 2023
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Posted on 9/12/24 at 2:17 pm to
It was a similar situation with the NFL, and the nfl network was born from it...perhaps something like that will happen between the 2 power conferences. Maybe they will create a network for marquee matchups outside of the main TV networks.
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