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re: Sec Country: LSU/UF fact and fiction(long)

Posted on 10/11/16 at 1:34 pm to
Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 10/11/16 at 1:34 pm to
LSU is only responsible for LSU. They have all the home games they can. Sometimes weather causes problems and things have to change. Hurricanes are disruptive... just like floods.

Honestly Florida just went through a hurricane. Gainesville had a game cancellation that they will not get back. They are going to be down 1 home game if the LSU game is rescheduled and they drop Prezby. All of the local businesses will feel that one home game that is gone.

Really not that much difference between the 2 from a local business standpoint.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
65254 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 1:35 pm to
3+1.5+6.8=11.3 million total.

someone write a check from UF or SEC and it may happen
Posted by CBandits82
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Member since May 2012
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Posted on 10/11/16 at 1:35 pm to
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I will say this: an out of conference game does not generate $15 Million. It does generate a lot of money for the local economy, but not that much. Find some evidence and I will gladly admit I'm wrong.



Its less than 15 million but it is a lot of money.

We actually just did a major study of the impact recently.

quote:

According to Scott, for a typical game in Tiger Stadium the average fan from outside of the Baton Rouge Metro area spends $160.59 in the state with $121.98 of that spent in the Baton Rouge community. Over a seven-game home season, total spending by fans from outside the Baton Rouge area is $62.8 million in Louisiana with $47.7 million of that being spent in the four-parish Baton Rouge Metro area.


LINK
Posted by 14&Counting
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2012
41525 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 1:38 pm to
quote:

Its less than 15 million but it is a lot of money. We actually just did a major study of the impact recently. quote:


And Florida is out game revenue too....you can't quantify the number exactly nor can you tell me who should get what?
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
65254 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 1:40 pm to
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It's called being reasonable



whats reasonable about giving up money while florida makes money and the whole thing is florida's fault
Posted by CaliTigerForLife
California
Member since Nov 2015
1215 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 1:41 pm to
Go lie to someone else. This has already been debunked in depth by a meteorologist. The path was actually closer to the coast on Wednesday than Thursday when in took this "drastic turn" that all of a sudden made the game unplayable. It's the same path the entire time and that's why LSU wanted a backup plan and UForfeit did not. Go spread your lies somewhere else.

Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 1:42 pm to
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And Florida is out game revenue too

Because they declined the offer to play on Sunday or Monday.

If they don't want to play the game, they don't get the money.

Now they want LSU to give up a home game because Florida didn't want to play their home game last weekend.

Haven't you been following at all?
Posted by 14&Counting
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2012
41525 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 1:43 pm to
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whats reasonable about giving up money


Both teams are out a home game. The hurricane was UF's fault?

If you want your home game with USA then fine. LSU should be charged with a conference forefit
Posted by CBandits82
Lurker since May 2008
Member since May 2012
58610 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 1:43 pm to
At the end of the day, I don't think this thing gets played.

Both schools have their feet in the sand and are not giving in.

The SEC really fricked up here and is gonna have to deal with it. They didn't do anything when it was their moment to shine a week ago

Sankay is praying for a UT win this weekend for sure.

This game is not gonna be played.
Posted by RichardCranium
Baton Rouge, Louisiana, USA
Member since Aug 2005
2556 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 1:45 pm to
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A hurricane is an Act of GOD. When the decision was made it was just to unpredictable and volatile a situation so erred on the side of caution. Maybe the game could have been played on say Monday but as the article pointed out there a lot more contingencies that needed to be factored in.



Your right! Cudos to every other University in Florida, Georgia, and South Carolina for pulling thier nuts out of Spanky's purse and getting their games done.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
65254 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 1:45 pm to
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Both teams are out a home game.


florida got insurance money from the sec

plus in the past the team affected takes the hit not other teams
This post was edited on 10/11/16 at 1:47 pm
Posted by CBandits82
Lurker since May 2008
Member since May 2012
58610 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 1:46 pm to
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If you want your home game with USA then fine. LSU should be charged with a conference forefit


I'm trying to follow you hear but this doesn't make any sense.

LSU is not gonna lose a home game, neither is Florida.

We would never be charged a forfeit

We would never go to Floride while losing a home game, regardless of any kind of insurance policy.

That doesn't make sense.
Posted by EastBankTiger
A little west of Hoover Dam
Member since Dec 2003
21616 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 1:47 pm to
So, according to said propaganda fluff piece...UCF and Tulane decided to postpone their game on Wednesday...when UF officials located less than 2 hours away from Orlando were still insisting that the game could be played in Gainesville as scheduled on Saturday.

In trying to make UF's point, you merely demonstrated what LSU and its officials have been stating was one of the main problems...that UF and the SEC dragged their feet for too long and ended up with a huge cluster F.

Also, there's that little matter of UCF and Tulane having a mutual open date, which LSU and UF don't have.

Face it...you guys are coming off as worse liars than Hillary...and that's BAD.
This post was edited on 10/11/16 at 1:51 pm
Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
Member since Aug 2011
23497 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 1:49 pm to
quote:

LSU is not gonna lose a home game, neither is Florida


Florida already has.

Even if LSU goes to Florida on the 19th... Florida has still lost a home game since they will have to cancel Presby.
Posted by geauxtigahs87
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2008
26663 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 1:49 pm to
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Fiction: Florida decided to cancel the LSU game

Fact: Foley wanted Sankey to cancel the game. Alleva didn't.
quote:

Florida and the SEC got ripped Wednesday and early Thursday for even considering the possibility of playing the game

Wrong. You were being ripped for not putting any contingencies in place. (i.e. planning for a possible change in game time or location) Foley said it himself that playing in BR or a neutral site "was never even a option"
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Fiction: Florida could have played LSU on Sunday

LSU offered to play in Gainsville on Sunday or Monday. What risk was there in tentatively agreeing to play the game on Monday? By late Saturday, (24 hours after HM passes) Foley would have had a better idea on how constrained emergency services were and made a final decision. Knowing what we know now, that final decision would have easily been to go ahead and play on Monday. Again, this goes back to not even bothering with a contingency plan and has nothing to do with the whole well hindsight is 20/20 argument.

I'm sure the debate of UF never wanted the game to begin with will go on forever, but the fact that yall are still trying to spin this to make it look like UF made all the right moves through this ordeal is just laughable. This was sheer incompetence on Florida's part.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 1:52 pm to
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If you want your home game with USA then fine. LSU should be charged with a conference forefit

Why does LSU have to forfeit when they demand their home game, but UF doesn't have to forfeit when they demanded THEIR home game?

Why the double standard?

Why is this all LSU's fault? LSU laid out several options for getting this game played, UF rejected ALL of them.

frick Florida

frick this game

and frick you.
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 1:52 pm to
That doesn't account for the millions lost to local business being it's LSU. USA wouldn't bring much in way of local revenue for LSU just like presby wouldn't have brought much to UF. The SEC needs to cut checks to USA/Presbyterian and to lsu for the lost game and play it 11/19.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
65254 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 1:53 pm to
quote:

hat doesn't account for the millions lost to local business being it's LSU. USA wouldn't bring much in way of local revenue for LSU just like presby wouldn't have brought much to UF. The SEC needs to cut checks to USA/Presbyterian and to lsu for the lost game and play it 11/19.



not happening

alleva finally grew balls and its foley's fault
Posted by 14&Counting
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2012
41525 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 1:55 pm to
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I'm sure the debate of UF never wanted the game to begin with will go on forever, but the fact that yall are still trying to spin this to make it look like UF made all the right moves through this ordeal is just laughable. This was sheer incompetence on Florida's part.


The fact of the matter is you don't have some moral high ground in the fact that UF erred on the side of caution in cancelling a football game in advance of a hurricane. It is incumbent on both parties, and that means LSU as well, to find a solution here.
Posted by Dock Holiday
Member since Sep 2015
1826 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 1:55 pm to
quote:

LSU offered to play in Gainsville on Sunday or Monday. What risk was there in tentatively agreeing to play the game on Monday? By late Saturday, (24 hours after HM passes) Foley would have had a better idea on how constrained emergency services were and made a final decision. Knowing what we know now, that final decision would have easily been to go ahead and play on Monday. Again, this goes back to not even bothering with a contingency plan and has nothing to do with the whole well hindsight is 20/20 argument. I'm sure the debate of UF never wanted the game to begin with will go on forever, but the fact that yall are still trying to spin this to make it look like UF made all the right moves through this ordeal is just laughable. This was sheer incompetence on Florida's part.


I wish I could up vote this into infinity.
I have been beating this drum with you and will continue to beat this drum as long as the denial of U of F and the national blow hards continues.

I have come across a few Florida fans that acknowledge it, but they are the exception.
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