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re: SEC blocks Trump on-field appearance at Bryant-Denny for Saturday's game

Posted on 9/29/24 at 6:37 pm to
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 9/29/24 at 6:37 pm to

I'm not going to read 100 replies before responding to this, so sorry if already posted:

I can understand the TV networks not wanting to give any airtime to Trump, but if Alabama wants to trot him out on the field at halftime or pregame or whatever, who gives a frick what Disney or the SEC or the NCAA thinks. What right do any of those organizations have to say who Alabama can and can't trot out on their field at halftime? The tv stations don't have to televise it. The marching bands go out there, the TV's don't broadcast that either.
Posted by Swampcat
Member since Dec 2003
11624 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 6:38 pm to
quote:

No. A president showing up is different from a candidate showing up.


How do you fiqure that one! They are running for a public office.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
30687 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 6:39 pm to
quote:

Well taking your freedoms away first makes you easier to kill would be my guess.


A farmer raises his cattle from birth. He takes care of their medical needs, he gives them food, he gives them shelter, and they probably think he's great.

He also puts them in a fenced in area to be contained, tags their ear giving them a number, brands them to note ownership and tells them when and where to go, and then one day they suddenly find themselves in line to be killed.

They were taken care of to the degree to which they could be harvested.

Milk cows, sheep, etc, same type of deal. Farmer does all that as long as the cow produces milk, the sheep produces wool, etc. When they stop producing, off they go.

I don't know why the concepts seem so foreign to people. I guess that's the way it is, I doubt the cows ever suspect a thing. Feed them enough grass and all is fine.

Rather be a wolf.
Posted by HarryBalzack
Member since Oct 2012
15987 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 6:52 pm to
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That has nothing to do with the SEC, those are sold by the TV station. Considering I am not even sure I saw a Kamala ad where I live, it is probably a regional ad sale.
I watched it on my phone with YoutubeTV, about .5 miles from BDS and saw plenty of Kamala ads, plus one or two DJT ads.

Those are paid spots that aren't using state property to host candidates. ESPN/Disney pays the SEC for the right to air the broadcast. What they do with the broadcast is their business, largely (so long as it doesn't violate the law or give the impression that the products are endorsed by the institutions or the SEC). And you could well argue that there's a public interest in allowing candidates access to such airtime.

The problem with letting DJT on the field is that it creates a free advertising situation at the expense of the state/university. No one else who's selling something gets free airtime at BDS.

I don't think DJT does anything during the campaign just for fun, but I also don't think he was there to campaign directly, either.
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
8817 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 7:07 pm to
Being on the field was a political stunt but more importantly the secret service was going to make it onerous for the football operations. Inconveniences for the fans is whatever, inconveniencing the teams is just not worth it for the SEC. UA’s stadium PA did announce him and put him on the Jumbotrons. He was announced on the ESPN broadcast too. No point in being aggrieved about it.
This post was edited on 9/29/24 at 7:08 pm
Posted by Clark14
Earth
Member since Dec 2014
23973 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 7:16 pm to
quote:

A farmer raises his cattle from birth. He takes care of their medical needs, he gives them food, he gives them shelter, and they probably think he's great. He also puts them in a fenced in area to be contained, tags their ear giving them a number, brands them to note ownership and tells them when and where to go, and then one day they suddenly find themselves in line to be killed. They were taken care of to the degree to which they could be harvested. Milk cows, sheep, etc, same type of deal. Farmer does all that as long as the cow produces milk, the sheep produces wool, etc. When they stop producing, off they go. I don't know why the concepts seem so foreign to people. I guess that's the way it is, I doubt the cows ever suspect a thing. Feed them enough grass and all is fine. Rather be a wolf.


If this is how you view your life bless your heart. You must be scared shitless.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
30687 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 7:30 pm to
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If this is how you view your life bless your heart. You must be scared shitless.


That's how I view your life.

Read my last sentence again. The government is not my shepherd.
This post was edited on 9/29/24 at 7:31 pm
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
70207 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 7:58 pm to
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I watched it on my phone with YoutubeTV, about .5 miles from BDS and saw plenty of Kamala ads, plus one or two DJT ads.

Those are paid spots that aren't using state property to host candidates. ESPN/Disney pays the SEC for the right to air the broadcast. What they do with the broadcast is their business, largely (so long as it doesn't violate the law or give the impression that the products are endorsed by the institutions or the SEC). And you could well argue that there's a public interest in allowing candidates access to such airtime.

The problem with letting DJT on the field is that it creates a free advertising situation at the expense of the state/university. No one else who's selling something gets free airtime at BDS.

I don't think DJT does anything during the campaign just for fun, but I also don't think he was there to campaign directly, either.


WHEREAS There is no law nor court precedent to say that Alabama couldn't let Trump make an appearance on the field, everything you just said is bullshite.





This post was edited on 9/29/24 at 7:59 pm
Posted by Clark14
Earth
Member since Dec 2014
23973 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 8:32 pm to
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That's how I view your life.


How could you? Did the internet tell you that?

There are those you are listening to who have folks scared of their own shadow. Looking for a savior that doesn’t exist in human form.

I’ve seen this talk all my life, you’re not the first to think they have it figured out.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
30687 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 9:58 pm to
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How could you? Did the internet tell you that?

There are those you are listening to who have folks scared of their own shadow. Looking for a savior that doesn’t exist in human form.

I’ve seen this talk all my life, you’re not the first to think they have it figured out.


Because when I see a cow in a pasture, it's generally safe to assume he is owned by the farmer that also owns the land. And you've certainly shown nothing to indicate otherwise.

Especially since you believe the only thing a person can do is choose which things to accept as truth, aka listen to, because understanding is beyond you.

I don't listen to anyone on the internet. I actually debunk most conspiracies because anyone who accepts or dismisses them completely is a fricking idiot. In order to see the truth you have to separate fact from fiction and creating bunk conspiracies is a good way to discredit the legit ones.

Which is of course, exactly what you are doing now, and exactly what others tried by listening a bunch of mostly bunk conspiracies.

I'm the opposite of scared. If I was scared, I wouldn't be posting. You're the one will deal with your consequences, not me. I'm pretty sure you are the one that is scared of me being right, so the best way to deal with it is to deny.

As for a savior, knowledge of the holy is understanding and the only thing that is saved by the death of truth is the lie.

Posted by deputyfife
Member since Dec 2013
1283 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 11:30 pm to
search Tuskegee and syphilis. or actually any of the experiments we have run on our soldiers, who to my mind never signed up to be medical guinea pigs.

you might want to look at all of the stuff America has dumped into the water as experiments. some turned out well and some didn't, but nobody really knew what was going to happen beforehand.
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