Started By
Message
1
Posted on 10/2/08 at 3:36 pm to I-59 Tiger
quote:
Saban >Lombardi,Bryant,Rockne,Wooden,Stengel,Auerbach .
Saban > Moses, Alexander, Lincoln, Washington, Hannibal, and Abraham.
Reagan could kick Saban's arse though.
Posted on 10/2/08 at 3:46 pm to BamaScoop
quote:
What do y'all think?
best coach in the nation that takes other coaches players and wins.....would have been fired at LSU had it not been for the blue grass td....
Posted on 10/2/08 at 4:08 pm to Bobby Moore
quote:
best coach in the nation that takes other coaches players and wins.....would have been fired at LSU had it not been for the blue grass td....
Okay dude. I hope you are joking, cause you are insane if you actually believe that.
Posted on 10/2/08 at 4:11 pm to arlo
quote:
Saban > Moses, Alexander, Lincoln, Washington, Hannibal, and Abraham.
Beg to differ on Lincoln. Perhaps substitute Teddy Roosevelt or Jefferson ?
Posted on 10/2/08 at 4:42 pm to Bobby Moore
quote:
.....would have been fired at LSU had it not been for the blue grass td....
What ?
Now,we were a play or two from 6-6 in '02,but I have a hard time believing he was under any pressure from LSU; the fans,sure,but not the powers that be. Posted on 10/2/08 at 4:51 pm to I-59 Tiger
quote:
Beg to differ on Lincoln. Perhaps substitute Teddy Roosevelt or Jefferson ?
Lincoln stuck with some offensive coordinators (McClellan) way too long. Saban would have fired his arse after The Second Battle of Bull Run.
This post was edited on 10/2/08 at 5:00 pm
Posted on 10/2/08 at 4:53 pm to BamaScoop
quote:
Saban...best coach in the nation!
I don't know for sure....but the Dolphins think this is crap!
Posted on 10/2/08 at 4:53 pm to arlo
quote:
Lincoln stuck with some offensive coordinators (McClellan) way to long. Saban would have fired his arse after The Second Battle of Bull Run.
Posted on 10/2/08 at 5:00 pm to Bobby Moore
quote:
would have been fired at LSU had it not been for the blue grass td....
Thats a bit of a stretch, don't you think?
Posted on 10/2/08 at 5:05 pm to BamaScoop
Saban is winning with Shula's players. How come no one mentions this?
Posted on 10/2/08 at 6:05 pm to Akit1
It's a new era of college football, a time where there are scholarship limits and anything that was done in the past (ahem...by the Bear) would be a recruiting violation.
That being the case, nobody other than LSU has the history that LSU has, with two national titles (assumption: AP = Irrelevant in this era). Nick is a damn good coach. But, it will take a lot to achieve what LSU has in this decade...whoever the coach is! So, IMO, LSU now is sitting atop the pinnacle of college football jobs along with a few other schools (Bama is one of them for the past tradition...not denying!). If not for LSU, maybe Saban is not who he is! Time will tell...
That being the case, nobody other than LSU has the history that LSU has, with two national titles (assumption: AP = Irrelevant in this era). Nick is a damn good coach. But, it will take a lot to achieve what LSU has in this decade...whoever the coach is! So, IMO, LSU now is sitting atop the pinnacle of college football jobs along with a few other schools (Bama is one of them for the past tradition...not denying!). If not for LSU, maybe Saban is not who he is! Time will tell...
Posted on 10/2/08 at 6:45 pm to Akit1
quote:
Saban is winning with Shula's players. How come no one mentions this?
Because Shula wasn't winning big games with his own players.. But I think he went undefeated against ULL however! :)
Miles is considered a continuation coach..more winning with players that were winning already before his arrival..
It's a crock, but it just is what it is
This post was edited on 10/2/08 at 6:46 pm
Posted on 10/2/08 at 6:59 pm to That One
Back and had a chance to review a few things before I posted. Again, I point out that anyone can sign 35 players and garnish more points than a team that simply is going to sign the players they need, like USC, LSU and Florida.
Currently, LSU is third in the nation in recruiting. Bama is eighth. Miles is almost guaranteed 2 more 5 star recruits, and possibly four, but I won't go into all that. I'd rather state that LSU could possibly finish with a 4.0 ranking or higher, the higest ranking in their history. So bet the Bama boys $$$, because unless
the world ends tommorrow, Bama has no chance of catching LSU in 2009 recruiting.
Les MIles and LSU 1, Nick Saban and Bama 0.
----------------------------------------------
In the HISTORY of Les Miles' tenue at LSU, here are his recruiting rankings, per RIVALS:
2005 3.69 (13)
2006 3.64 (25)
2007 3.87 (26)
2008 3.58 (26)
2009 3.83 (18) ===>>> 3.7220
Add this up you have a total of 107 players
over the course of half a decade that equal
a cumulative ranking that (look it up) is BETTER
than Nick's class of last year, of which many aren't even there anymore. Do you get the picture?
LSU has A HUNDRED PLAYERS better than Saban's best class.
In this case, Miles' AVERAGE beats Saban in his best year.
Manke it Miles and LSU 2, Saban and Bama 0
-----------------------------------------------
Saban's best classes EVER---- ANYWHERE, ANYTIME
2003 3.68 (LSU)
2008 3.72 (Bama)
2009 3.53 (bama)
2004 3.54 (LSU)=======> 3.6175
Saban also raked in steller classes in 2002
(3.23) and at Bama in 2007 (3.28) In this case,
in Sabans' 4 best classes, he's not even close to Miles.
Score it Miles and LSU 3, Nick Saban and Bama 0
----------------------------------------------
It's beyond obvious that Miles is a better recruiter, and the facts are proven on the field.
Next post.
Currently, LSU is third in the nation in recruiting. Bama is eighth. Miles is almost guaranteed 2 more 5 star recruits, and possibly four, but I won't go into all that. I'd rather state that LSU could possibly finish with a 4.0 ranking or higher, the higest ranking in their history. So bet the Bama boys $$$, because unless
the world ends tommorrow, Bama has no chance of catching LSU in 2009 recruiting.
Les MIles and LSU 1, Nick Saban and Bama 0.
----------------------------------------------
In the HISTORY of Les Miles' tenue at LSU, here are his recruiting rankings, per RIVALS:
2005 3.69 (13)
2006 3.64 (25)
2007 3.87 (26)
2008 3.58 (26)
2009 3.83 (18) ===>>> 3.7220
Add this up you have a total of 107 players
over the course of half a decade that equal
a cumulative ranking that (look it up) is BETTER
than Nick's class of last year, of which many aren't even there anymore. Do you get the picture?
LSU has A HUNDRED PLAYERS better than Saban's best class.
In this case, Miles' AVERAGE beats Saban in his best year.
Manke it Miles and LSU 2, Saban and Bama 0
-----------------------------------------------
Saban's best classes EVER---- ANYWHERE, ANYTIME
2003 3.68 (LSU)
2008 3.72 (Bama)
2009 3.53 (bama)
2004 3.54 (LSU)=======> 3.6175
Saban also raked in steller classes in 2002
(3.23) and at Bama in 2007 (3.28) In this case,
in Sabans' 4 best classes, he's not even close to Miles.
Score it Miles and LSU 3, Nick Saban and Bama 0
----------------------------------------------
It's beyond obvious that Miles is a better recruiter, and the facts are proven on the field.
Next post.
Posted on 10/2/08 at 7:02 pm to BT4LSU
quote:
BT4LSU
CAN YOU SAY ranter
Posted on 10/2/08 at 7:09 pm to RockyStop
quote:
CAN YOU SAY ranter
If you can't retaliate,, resort to namecalling.
Posted on 10/2/08 at 7:22 pm to BT4LSU
Now, in the second part of why Miles is a better coach, lets look at when Miles was hired... January 5th 2005. Miles inherits a 16th ranked LSU team that loses to Iowa in the Capitol One Bowl.
We've already documented that Miles recruits better than Saban. Miles, in the wake of hurricane Katrina, and a completely displaced team, goes 11-2, destroys Miami, and finishes #5.
Score in coaching: Miles 1, Saban 0
Now lets take the COMPLETE HISTORY of Les Miles' record at LSU:
2005 10-2
2006 11-2
2007 12-2
2008 4-0 =====>> 38-6 .860
Saban's best years in his HISTORY
13-1 LSU, 2003
10-3 LSU 2001
9-3 LSU, 2004
4-0 Bama 2008 ====> 36-7 .837
Miles gives Saban his best four years...
he still loses to Miles.
Score Miles 2, Saban 0
---------------------------------
Now, let's compare the records against SEC coaches:
Miles verses record
Urban Meyer 2-1
Phat Phil 2-1
Mark Richt 0-1
Tommy TUb 2-2
Nick Saban 1-0
Steve Spurr 1-0.... 8-4 or .750
Saban
Urban Meyer 1-1
Phat Phil 2-1
Mark Richt 3-2
Tommy Tubb 2-3
Les Miles 0-1
Steve Spur 0-2 ====> 8-10 .. nuff said
Miles has proven to be a better game day coach.
Make it Miles 3, Saban 0
-----------------------------------------------
And here is another stat many don't know: Check the drafts since 2000. Count how many kids Saban put in the NFL, and how many Miles did.
Miles again.
Make it Miles 4, Saban 0
So, if you are beating Saban in RECRUITING, and WIN MORE with his players than he did..... guess
what's going to happen in November?
Come November, Miles will destroy Saban.
AGAIN.
We've already documented that Miles recruits better than Saban. Miles, in the wake of hurricane Katrina, and a completely displaced team, goes 11-2, destroys Miami, and finishes #5.
Score in coaching: Miles 1, Saban 0
Now lets take the COMPLETE HISTORY of Les Miles' record at LSU:
2005 10-2
2006 11-2
2007 12-2
2008 4-0 =====>> 38-6 .860
Saban's best years in his HISTORY
13-1 LSU, 2003
10-3 LSU 2001
9-3 LSU, 2004
4-0 Bama 2008 ====> 36-7 .837
Miles gives Saban his best four years...
he still loses to Miles.
Score Miles 2, Saban 0
---------------------------------
Now, let's compare the records against SEC coaches:
Miles verses record
Urban Meyer 2-1
Phat Phil 2-1
Mark Richt 0-1
Tommy TUb 2-2
Nick Saban 1-0
Steve Spurr 1-0.... 8-4 or .750
Saban
Urban Meyer 1-1
Phat Phil 2-1
Mark Richt 3-2
Tommy Tubb 2-3
Les Miles 0-1
Steve Spur 0-2 ====> 8-10 .. nuff said
Miles has proven to be a better game day coach.
Make it Miles 3, Saban 0
-----------------------------------------------
And here is another stat many don't know: Check the drafts since 2000. Count how many kids Saban put in the NFL, and how many Miles did.
Miles again.
Make it Miles 4, Saban 0
So, if you are beating Saban in RECRUITING, and WIN MORE with his players than he did..... guess
what's going to happen in November?
Come November, Miles will destroy Saban.
AGAIN.
This post was edited on 10/2/08 at 7:27 pm
Posted on 10/2/08 at 7:23 pm to RockyStop
I can say you're an delusional gump who can't handle facts.... care to dispute them???
Miles is better.
Miles is better.
This post was edited on 10/2/08 at 7:27 pm
Posted on 10/2/08 at 7:26 pm to BT4LSU
Trio, Lucky, Arlo, and Slop can't answer. It's why they can't stand me.... I bitch slap them with the undisputed truth.
1. LSU is better than Alabama
2. Miles is better than Saban.
Until Saban can prove something (anything) to
prove otherwise, he and Bama are bridesmaids.
And we will beat Bama. Easily, I may add.
1. LSU is better than Alabama
2. Miles is better than Saban.
Until Saban can prove something (anything) to
prove otherwise, he and Bama are bridesmaids.
And we will beat Bama. Easily, I may add.
Posted on 10/2/08 at 7:26 pm to Bigtigah
quote:
If you can't retaliate,, resort to namecalling.
Do you honestly think I take time to read B.J.'s posts. I think we have all learned (I know I have) within the first couple of days of seeing his posts that he's a lonely person. You know if this is how you make friends and influence people congrats!
Page 7 of 8
Popular
Back to top
Follow SECRant for SEC Football News