re: Saban Runs off Two More!!!

Kid can't keep his spot, loses his scholarship. Circle of life. Unless you have proof that Saban or any Bama assistant told a player than he'd get four years guaranteed, regardless of performance, then you have no argument.

this thread makes me sad

arrakis - I think a large part of Saban's job is to get "his boys" on scholarship. Isn't it the same for all other coaches?

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arrakis - I think a large part of Saban's job is to get "his boys" on scholarship. Isn't it the same for all other coaches?

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Not if he's oversigning and throwing players under the bus.

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The point is if they are transferring to a smaller school they more than likely have no chance at the NFL. It would be best for any college athlete to stay at the better academic institution for their long term future.

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Your first sentence is incorrect. Playing at a larger school does provide a greater chance for national exposure...not so much if you're third or lower on the depth chart. There was a shitload of smaller schools (D-2 and D-3 included) that had players drafted by the NFL in 2008. Bama...sorry to say, none.

I agree with your second sentence.

At SEC Media Days a reporter questioned CNS about attrition:

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Q. Would you classify such attrition as normal year to year operations?

COACH SABAN: We have a demanding program. I mean, when I say ‘demanding program,’ I’m not talking about football. We have a personal development aspect to our program that there’s principles and values in the organization relative to developing a successful philosophy, creating the right kind of habits, thoughts, habits and priorities that are going to help you make good decisions, whether it’s the Pacific Institute coming in, whether it’s a peer intervention program that address behavioral issues, drugs, alcohol, gambling, spiritual development, how to treat the opposite sex, macho man stuff, running your mouth, getting in fights.

Most of the stuff you read about players having issues with come in some of those categories from that personal standpoint. We spend a lot of time trying to develop personalities on our team, characteristics that will help them be more successful, and they’ll be more successful in life for having been involved in the program.

It is demanding. We have some players in our program who have not met those demands. We have the same kind of demands academically. We have one of the highest graduation rates in the SEC and in the country, and that’s going north for next year because we’ll have even more players graduate next year in our program.

But we have a demanding academic system in terms of player requirements, in terms of what they need to do. There are players that don’t meet that. And we have the same thing in football. But none of these players are leaving because of the kind of football players they are from our standpoint. There may be some player who leaves because they’re disappointed and don’t think or don’t have the confidence that they can play.

So if we have attrition for any of those areas, and I tell the player, I don’t want you to leave, you’re a good person in the program, you’re a good student. You may be a backup player, but you have to be satisfied with your role on the team ’cause we don’t want a player that’s disgruntled or negative in terms of our team chemistry for selfish reasons because you’re unsatisfied with your role. If you don’t think you can achieve that here, I’m supportive in helping you go someplace else.

I don’t know how these things get out. But I only address these things when we start fall camp. We still have a couple players who could or couldn’t qualify. We have quite a few players who have already enrolled in school. This is from a young player’s standpoint. We have some players who will be grayshirted and know they will be grayshirted. And we have some players who are contemplating what their future’s gonna be relative to the University of Alabama.

And we have some players who are being suspended, whether it’s for behavior or academic reasons, and they won’t continue at our school.
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when has les oversigned?

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if this is what college football will come to, I don't want any part of it.

there's no honor in that.

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That's pretty funny, Doc.

It's gonna really suck for you in about six weeks.

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Let's not forget Utah kicked your arse with a recruiting class ranked 41st.

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Using your logic:

A 41st-ranked recruiting class > Bama > LSU, UGA, Tennessee, AU, etc.

I'd say that's sort of a fail.

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Did he oversign when he was at LSU?

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Don't know. Did he?