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re: Saban: I have underachieved as a head coach, I should have eight national titles
Posted on 9/3/15 at 3:44 pm to NYCAuburn
Posted on 9/3/15 at 3:44 pm to NYCAuburn
quote:Dude be logical. If Bama got in over a P5 conference champ when they didn't even win their division, why wouldn't they get in over the MWC champs after winning out and beating the number 2 team in the nation? I'm sure Bama would have received a good bit of 1st place votes if they had won out.
Because the other two teams got the rest, you would have been left out. I know this is a hard topic for you. Do you guys count the losses as wins since you beat yourself?
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Posted on 9/3/15 at 3:47 pm to MontyFranklyn
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Dude be logical. If Bama got in over a P5 conference champ when they didn't even win their division,
okay then why exactly did this happen....
You got in because your only loss was to the only undefeated team, who was ranked #1, in overtime. There were also no other undefeated teams. logically speaking
Posted on 9/3/15 at 3:51 pm to NYCAuburn
This is all hypothetical because we lost 3 games that year.
But IF our only loss was to South Carolina on Oct 9, 2010, we won out and won the SEC Championship. Alabama would of played for the NC that year and got in over TCU.
Alabama would have beaten 6 ranked team, including the #2 team at the time Auburn, and their only lost would of been to a top 20 team in the regular season.
TCU would have beaten 2 ranked teams.
TCU didn't play in a conference championship game.
Alabama would have played in a conference championship game. And, hypothetical of course, would have played and beat the team they lost to earlier in the year SC.
So a 1 loss SEC Champion, whose only lose was to a top 20 team, and who they beat when they played again. Verses a Mountain West team with 2 wins over ranked teams and no conference championship game.
Once again, If Alabama would have won out after the SC loss, they would of played for the National Championship.
I know this is hard for you to understand after getting left out, and rightfully so, in 04. But that's how it would of happen.
But IF our only loss was to South Carolina on Oct 9, 2010, we won out and won the SEC Championship. Alabama would of played for the NC that year and got in over TCU.
Alabama would have beaten 6 ranked team, including the #2 team at the time Auburn, and their only lost would of been to a top 20 team in the regular season.
TCU would have beaten 2 ranked teams.
TCU didn't play in a conference championship game.
Alabama would have played in a conference championship game. And, hypothetical of course, would have played and beat the team they lost to earlier in the year SC.
So a 1 loss SEC Champion, whose only lose was to a top 20 team, and who they beat when they played again. Verses a Mountain West team with 2 wins over ranked teams and no conference championship game.
Once again, If Alabama would have won out after the SC loss, they would of played for the National Championship.
I know this is hard for you to understand after getting left out, and rightfully so, in 04. But that's how it would of happen.
This post was edited on 9/3/15 at 3:54 pm
Posted on 9/3/15 at 3:52 pm to JohnForney
quote:This is so true...The true test is what a team does after they lose a game. Do they throw in the towel for the rest of the season, or do they regroup and kick arse the rest of the way?
It's not all about talent and coaching. A lot of it is attitude and motivation.. It's very difficult to win back to back titles because of that, as Ohio State will find out this year. Bama won 3 of 4 national titles. They were bound to have a letdown. I expect they'll be hungry again this year.
Posted on 9/3/15 at 3:54 pm to GIbson05
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I know this is hard for you to understand after getting left out, and rightfully so, in 03.
hmm... still having difficulty I see
doesnt change the fact that all those ifs and you still would have been left out against the undefeated TCU.
Posted on 9/3/15 at 4:01 pm to Bench McElroy
What a dick.
How was Paul able to speak w/ a mouthful of Nick?
How was Paul able to speak w/ a mouthful of Nick?
Posted on 9/3/15 at 4:01 pm to NYCAuburn
Under that logic '06 undefeated Boise State would of got in over a 1-loss SEC champion Florida. And Boise State and Ohio State should of played that year.
Admit it, Alabama gets in.
Admit it, Alabama gets in.
Posted on 9/3/15 at 4:02 pm to GIbson05
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logic
you should probably refrain from this, because you dont know how to follow it
Posted on 9/3/15 at 4:05 pm to NYCAuburn
I laid it out for you a couple post above. Sorry you cant follow it.
Even the thought of hypothetically Alabama getting into a NC game pisses you off.
Even the thought of hypothetically Alabama getting into a NC game pisses you off.
Posted on 9/3/15 at 4:06 pm to GIbson05
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I laid it out for you a couple post above.
logic? no you didnt
then you tried to use my logic or at least your interpretation of it and failed doing so
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Even the thought of hypothetically Alabama getting into a NC game pisses you off.
it seems the hypothetical of not getting in pisses you off, but nice projection
This post was edited on 9/3/15 at 4:07 pm
Posted on 9/3/15 at 4:08 pm to Bench McElroy
Returning to the OP, while I don't dispute Saban's assessment that he should have won more NCs, given the talent at his disposal, the first part of his quote troubles me:
The only guy who was on his '03 staff that won the title is Lance Thompson, who helped him win the NC in 2012, but was elsewhere when Bama won in '09 and '11.
Since he's talking about two different schools, with entirely different teams and coaches, spread out over an 11-year period, why can't he just say "I won four national championships"? False modesty?
quote:Who exactly is "we"?
"People talk about we've won four national championships," Saban said, including the 2003 title he won at LSU.
The only guy who was on his '03 staff that won the title is Lance Thompson, who helped him win the NC in 2012, but was elsewhere when Bama won in '09 and '11.
Since he's talking about two different schools, with entirely different teams and coaches, spread out over an 11-year period, why can't he just say "I won four national championships"? False modesty?
Posted on 9/3/15 at 4:09 pm to NYCAuburn
Make your case why TCU gets in over a 1-loss Alabama. I want to see how you justify that.
Posted on 9/3/15 at 4:11 pm to GIbson05
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Make your case why TCU gets in over a 1-loss Alabama. I want to see how you justify that.
You seem very slow today
Posted on 9/3/15 at 4:13 pm to NYCAuburn
You can't gave a reason they get in because you know they wouldn't have. Obviously I'm the dumb one here so explain it to me.
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