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Saban Fatigue setting in at Bama?

Posted on 1/16/09 at 8:57 am
Posted by TenTex
Member since Jan 2008
15949 posts
Posted on 1/16/09 at 8:57 am
Very, very few coaches can handle more then 2 years of working for Nick Saban. This is the main reason I was happy to see Saban leave LSU. Yes, he is a good coach with excellent salesman skills used on recruiting high school recruits, but the down side is definitely there. Lance Thompson had the choice of working another year for Saban are doubling his pay and working for Lane Kiffin at UT. What would you choose? LSU was just starting to enter burn out of Nick Saban when he left LSU. Watching the Bama/Utah game and how everyone on the sidelines walked in fear around Nick reminded me of what I don't miss about him being at LSU. Now Nick has to focus on rebuilding his coaching staff at a critical juncture. Why? Because of his style of constantly demeaning people around him. It's not gonna change, it will always be part of Nick.

Another Asst Coach Leaves Saban

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Crimson Tide offensive coordinator Jim McElwain told quarterback prospect AJ McCarron of St. Paul's that Thompson walked into Alabama's coaching meetings Thursday morning and announced he was resigning to take a job at Tennessee. "It shocked everybody," McCarron said. That included head coach Nick Saban, who was "shocked" and "kind of upset," said Richardson, who heard from Saban later Thursday.


Will Jim McElwain be the next to leave?

Here's a Bama Fan post from one of the Bama boards that is pretty right on. I think Bama fans are finally starting to figure it out about Nick.

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some local personalities were making a big deal that none of CNS's staff from michigan state followed him to lsu.......I understand he's hard to work for, and I understand our spin of "yeah, but if someone wants to work for a winner, they'll work for CNS" etc. But as long as more nicer winners start coming to league, I can't help if CNS is going to "mean" himself out of some good coaches who realize they don't have to put up with that scat.
This post was edited on 1/16/09 at 9:07 am
Posted by attheua
Tuscaloosa
Member since Apr 2008
5442 posts
Posted on 1/16/09 at 10:30 am to
This is getting ridiculous.
Posted by attheua
Tuscaloosa
Member since Apr 2008
5442 posts
Posted on 1/16/09 at 10:38 am to
Saban is a meanie
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123779 posts
Posted on 1/16/09 at 11:03 am to
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But as long as more nicer winners start coming to league, I can't help if CNS is going to "mean" himself out of some good coaches who realize they don't have to put up with that scat.
Anyone have a Bamanese-to-English translator handy?
Posted by los angeles tiger
1,601 miles from Tiger Stadium
Member since Oct 2003
55976 posts
Posted on 1/16/09 at 11:08 am to
quote:

Anyone have a Bamanese-to-English translator handy?



Bamanese is a strange language because of all the dialects.

ETA: After some research, I am able to translate.

Much like many Bama girls, this is a loose translation. "Psychologically balanced coaches will not go to Bama even when Saban comes onto them like a whore, because they don't want to deal with his bizarre sexual fetishes that include scat."
This post was edited on 1/16/09 at 11:14 am
Posted by NashvilleTider
Your Mom
Member since Jan 2007
11353 posts
Posted on 1/16/09 at 1:22 pm to
LT's move has nothing to do with saban, and more to do with a zipper, and a wife wanting that zipper far away from Ttown.
Posted by jonboy
Member since Sep 2003
7138 posts
Posted on 1/16/09 at 1:37 pm to
quote:

more to do with a zipper


Ahh, the old zipper issue. Seems like CNS and his staff are infected with zipper issues. Prolly why they like "recruiting" and being "on the road" so much.
Not sure if hanging out with Orgeron is going to help cure the zipper issue.
Posted by Rocket
Member since Mar 2004
61117 posts
Posted on 1/16/09 at 1:42 pm to
Usually the ones who are competent and can stick it out end up in good situations.

The chances of Lance Thompson being a successful SEC head coach are slim and none.
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
36703 posts
Posted on 1/16/09 at 1:59 pm to
I don't always stick up for Saban when something goes wrong,or is perceived to have gone wrong (honestly,he brings a lot on himself),but the Michigan State assistant coaches staying in East Lansing instead of flying to Baton Rouge to join him at LSU is misleading and honestly not accurate at all.

Correct me if I am wrong (and I am sure someone will ) but when Saban decided to leave for LSU,the Michigan State president (chancellor ?)and others weren't that fired up about Bobby Williams being the new HC. The only way he would agree to hire him,and remove the 'interim' was if the existing staff would all stay and coach for Williams.

LSU didn't have a limousine outside the Mich State coaches offices waiting to wisk them to a chartered 747 to Baton Rouge. I'm not even how accurate the 'empty plane' story is. Probably some corporate jet ,either LSU's or 'loaned' picking up some of Kristen's Barbie dolls or something,and oh by the way if any of you guys want to look around LSU ,come on down.

Saban steps it enough with his abrasiveness without myths exploding.
Posted by Dignan
Member since Sep 2005
13265 posts
Posted on 1/16/09 at 2:02 pm to
What's up with your "Walking Tall" avatar. Does that guy have a boner?
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
36703 posts
Posted on 1/16/09 at 2:10 pm to
quote:

What's up with your "Walking Tall" avatar. Does that guy have a boner?


Wow. Buford Pusser carried a big stick and beat the hell out of people.
Posted by tuck
Member since Oct 2007
12653 posts
Posted on 1/16/09 at 2:14 pm to
i'll never look at your avatar the same way. how disturbing.
Posted by jonboy
Member since Sep 2003
7138 posts
Posted on 1/16/09 at 2:36 pm to
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LSU didn't have a limousine outside the Mich State coaches offices waiting to wisk them to a chartered 747


It was the TAF plane (i think) and was sent up to retrieve any assistants that wanted to come to LSU. You know the rest of the story. Don't know about the Williams/chancellor part of the story, but it is telling that not a single assistant got on the plane.
Kind of makes you wonder why they sent the plane
at all?
Posted by Dignan
Member since Sep 2005
13265 posts
Posted on 1/16/09 at 2:39 pm to
Well, it looks like Buford is polishing his stick while looking down at Tuck's avatar.
Posted by Rocket
Member since Mar 2004
61117 posts
Posted on 1/16/09 at 2:53 pm to
quote:

It was the TAF plane (i think) and was sent up to retrieve any assistants that wanted to come to LSU


He said in his book that, contrary to public opinion, he only offered a couple of his assistants to come with him.

I'm sure working for Bobby Williams was a walk in the park.
Posted by jonboy
Member since Sep 2003
7138 posts
Posted on 1/16/09 at 3:16 pm to
So he offers jobs to a couple of assistants, sends the plane up to get them, and the plane leaves empty. They had to give him the impression that they were coming or else the plane would be sent. It ended up being sort of an embarrassment following the hire.

I think it was their way of saying, "frick you"!
Posted by tigerroar
Monroe,La
Member since Jan 2005
190 posts
Posted on 1/16/09 at 3:18 pm to
Nick has had his own "zipper" issues. Maybe that is something that is part of his "process".
Posted by Rocket
Member since Mar 2004
61117 posts
Posted on 1/16/09 at 3:20 pm to
Bill Miller and Morris Watts were his coordinators. How'd that move work out for 'em?
Posted by jonboy
Member since Sep 2003
7138 posts
Posted on 1/16/09 at 3:27 pm to
quote:

Usually the ones who are competent and can stick it out end up in good situations


Muschamp, Fisher, Dooley...dude put together one hell of a staff while here.
Posted by SugarBeauxl
Chicago
Member since Nov 2008
1079 posts
Posted on 1/16/09 at 4:08 pm to
Saban's 5th Year Team at LSU was his worst - barely beat everybody. He wears out players and coaches. After 5 years he'll be out at BAMA.
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