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re: Ryan Day still whining over "non-targeting" aka “Displaced Buckeye Sore Butthole thread”

Posted on 2/1/23 at 6:01 pm to
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 2/1/23 at 6:01 pm to
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He was a defenseless player
So, are you saying defensive players cannot hit a receiver when he is catching the ball? Because it happens in every single game.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 2/1/23 at 6:02 pm to
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On the field ref.


Hmmm...the guy a couple feet away who had a better look than anyone else in the country? Weird.
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 2/1/23 at 6:04 pm to
It was targeting
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 2/1/23 at 6:04 pm to
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I don't think those offset, do they?


Yeah, they would b/c they are both live ball fouls.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 2/1/23 at 6:09 pm to
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Yeah, they would b/c they are both live ball fouls.


I don't have the rulebook in front of me, but I thought there was an exception for 15 yard vs 5 yard penalties.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58909 posts
Posted on 2/1/23 at 6:11 pm to
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Must've been the replay official...




It wasn't. An official was pretty close to the play (Under the cross bars of the goal)

Even the announcers were saying it was a clean hit.

Here you go:

YouTube
Just go to the 10:00 mark and watch from there.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 2/1/23 at 6:13 pm to
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Hmmm...the guy a couple feet away who had a better look than anyone else in the country? Weird.




Actually, the person with the best view in the country would have been in the replay booth. They can slow it down and take it frame by frame if need be and have it from several angles on High Definition.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
34537 posts
Posted on 2/1/23 at 6:13 pm to
No.

A double foul are two-live ball fouls, one against each team. And they will offset, regardless of yardage.

You are thinking of a live ball-dead ball.
This post was edited on 2/1/23 at 6:16 pm
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 2/1/23 at 6:15 pm to
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if that hit wasn't a penalty, I don't know why they bother.


They are balancing the nature of the game with safety of the player.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 2/1/23 at 6:15 pm to
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Actually, the person with the best view in the country would have been in the replay booth.


I don't see a better view than what that official had. At best, it's a subjective opinion that differed between two officials, and depending on what school you went to.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 2/1/23 at 6:16 pm to
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wasn’t targeting. But plays like this need special calls as well even if it was targeting.


The sport you are looking for is flag football.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 2/1/23 at 6:19 pm to
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Hmmm...the guy a couple feet away who had a better look than anyone else in the country? Weird.


On the field ref wasn’t sure of it, so he threw a flag, as the rule tells him to do.

Leaves it up to the replay ref, who has the best look of the play, to confirm, as the rules tells him to do.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71524 posts
Posted on 2/1/23 at 6:20 pm to
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You are thinking of a live ball-dead ball.


I might be thinking about the NFL.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71524 posts
Posted on 2/1/23 at 6:22 pm to
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They are balancing the nature of the game with safety of the player.


The NCAA has made it clear that player safety wins out.

Or, that's what they've said anyway.
Posted by JackTraven
Maryland
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 2/1/23 at 6:23 pm to
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He was? Go ahead and lay that out. Been awhile since I've watched the game, but I don't remember ever thinking McGahee was "gashing" our defense.


Yes, he was a non factor most of the game until the third. It was 17-7 OSU and McGahee goes on the ensuing drive…

6yds; 10yds; 10yds; 9yds; Touchdown to make it 17-14.

He got hurt shortly thereafter which was an huge momentum swing as OSU had stuffed him all game only to finally loosen up. His backup had a horrible fumble.

Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 2/1/23 at 6:24 pm to
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On the field ref wasn’t sure of it, so he threw a flag


Are you referring to "when in question, it's a foul" with this comment?
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32854 posts
Posted on 2/1/23 at 6:26 pm to
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The NCAA has made it clear that player safety wins out.


Uh, no. The whole point of balancing 2 things is a simple concept, yet over your head. Nether wins out when balanced properly.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58909 posts
Posted on 2/1/23 at 6:26 pm to

But I still don't see why a 15 yard penalty would have been called. It is perfectly ok to hit a receiver about to make a catch as long as it is not crown of the helmet to helmet.

Also, with Harrison being an ineligible receiver it would have been waved off anyway.
This post was edited on 2/1/23 at 6:27 pm
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 2/1/23 at 6:27 pm to
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Are you referring to "when in question, it's a foul" with this comment?


Yes.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71524 posts
Posted on 2/1/23 at 6:27 pm to
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He got hurt shortly thereafter


And was doing very little on that drive, right?

So really, he had one drive of 35 yards, and that's about it. And you think that's comparable to what Marv Jr. did to your secondary?
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