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re: Reverend Rabbit: "There's a difference between making a mistake and cheating"
Posted on 5/31/16 at 9:10 am to StopRobot
Posted on 5/31/16 at 9:10 am to StopRobot
After reading that article I'm concerned about two things.
1. Freeze really could be that dumb. A football savant perhaps.
2. He's going to throw his back out hurling the other coaches and administrators under the bus. Freeze is in full on Schultz mode here "I hear nothing, I see nothing, I know nothing!"
1. Freeze really could be that dumb. A football savant perhaps.
2. He's going to throw his back out hurling the other coaches and administrators under the bus. Freeze is in full on Schultz mode here "I hear nothing, I see nothing, I know nothing!"
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Posted on 5/31/16 at 9:12 am to OBReb6
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Like his tweet in signing day a few years ago challenging people to bring forth allegations?
I still have no idea why any coach would tweet that, even if you believe you are running a clean program.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 9:18 am to OBReb6
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I honestly think he's just a naive idiot. Like his tweet in signing day a few years ago challenging people to bring forth allegations? That's the stuff of a simpleton
Les is a naive idiot. Freeze is more sinister than that.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 9:18 am to ButchGetsIt
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“My wife (Jill) just asked me, ‘Hugh, what should I pray that you want the end game to be?’ he said. “I said that they (the NCAA) accept the penalties that we self-imposed. I wish somebody would say, ‘Look, they’ve (NCAA) been there four years and the staff is not buying players.’ ”
Yeah lets pray for that. I mean I am sure God is concerned about Ole Miss athletics
Posted on 5/31/16 at 9:20 am to StopRobot
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“These people that don’t know me and are writing these narratives about me … I don’t know how to change their minds,” Freeze said. “Because if they read what’s out there and still say that (we’re cheating), I’m not sure what to d
Why isn't this what you quoted and posted from the article? It is actually what was said and meant by the title of the article.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 9:21 am to reboil
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So after three and a half years of investigation into how Ole Miss got that recruiting class in 2013 and they find Tunsil's mom's boy friend got $800 from a booster and couple of hotel rooms. The big question is where are all the 5 and 6 figure payments to LT or Treadwell or big Rob or Connor?
You forgot the loaner cars and I guess you didn't know but Tunsil himself admitted he got cash. It was on all the news stations.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 9:24 am to tomsellecksmustache
Yep, not only should he know the rules from the recruiting test, but he had prior exposure to the NCAA infractions committee in 2006:
"The other violations reported by Ole Miss included tight ends coach Hugh Freeze, who at the time was director of football operations and did not have recruiting responsibilities. Freeze
participated in telephone calls with four Memphis-area prospects
between Oct. 30 and Nov. 13.
Among Ole Miss' self-imposed penalties was a two-week ban on
calling Memphis-area prospects.
"We felt like these were routine issues and we're going to
report secondary violations when we find them," said Wells.
"If there is a significant pattern that develops, the NCAA has the right to look at it as a major issue," Ole Miss athletic
director Pete Boone said. "But that's not what they've done here.
It's just one of those things you just always have to have your
antennas up."
2006 ole miss violations
"The other violations reported by Ole Miss included tight ends coach Hugh Freeze, who at the time was director of football operations and did not have recruiting responsibilities. Freeze
participated in telephone calls with four Memphis-area prospects
between Oct. 30 and Nov. 13.
Among Ole Miss' self-imposed penalties was a two-week ban on
calling Memphis-area prospects.
"We felt like these were routine issues and we're going to
report secondary violations when we find them," said Wells.
"If there is a significant pattern that develops, the NCAA has the right to look at it as a major issue," Ole Miss athletic
director Pete Boone said. "But that's not what they've done here.
It's just one of those things you just always have to have your
antennas up."
2006 ole miss violations
Posted on 5/31/16 at 9:25 am to StopRobot
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“These people that don’t know me and are writing these narratives about me … I don’t know how to change their minds,” Freeze said. “Because if they read what’s out there and still say that (we’re cheating), I’m not sure what to do.”
Posted on 5/31/16 at 9:25 am to StopRobot
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Yeah lets pray for that. I mean I am sure God is concerned about Ole Miss athletics
Well obviously the prayers of Hugh Freeze's wife take precedence over small things like children dying from some horrible disease, war, and all those other meaningless things.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 9:26 am to StopRobot
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forgot the loaner cars and I guess you didn't know but Tunsil himself admitted he got cash. It was on all the news stations.
He asked where is the money for RN and Treadwell. 4 years of digging into Cannon Motors found 2 players who drove loaner cars around for too long being Tunsil and Hampton. All that money that we apparently paid Tunsil yet he needs help with a light bill. You can't have it both ways. The report that gives credence to OM paying players is 2/3rd made up of lodging and food and all the improper benefits combined doesn't even net 17k dollars.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 9:28 am to StopRobot
Remember when Ole Miss "sources" leaked to friendly reporters right before Signing Day that all this stuff was pre-Freeze? That was ethical.
— Dan Wolken (@DanWolken) May 27, 2016
Was false, misleading, and intentional. LINK
— Matt Wyatt (@MaroonWyatt) May 27, 2016
Raise your hand if you were given/tweeted/reported bad info regarding Ole Miss’ old-staff/new-staff allegations. ???
— Matt Wyatt (@MaroonWyatt) May 27, 2016
— Dan Wolken (@DanWolken) May 27, 2016
Was false, misleading, and intentional. LINK
— Matt Wyatt (@MaroonWyatt) May 27, 2016
Raise your hand if you were given/tweeted/reported bad info regarding Ole Miss’ old-staff/new-staff allegations. ???
— Matt Wyatt (@MaroonWyatt) May 27, 2016
This post was edited on 5/31/16 at 9:29 am
Posted on 5/31/16 at 9:29 am to Tdot_RiverDawg
I think he is using the word "cheating" as most people interprete it, not the literal, like calling a player 2 minutes late and that being labeled cheating because technically it is. Most people refer to cheating in college recruiting as in paying a player a large amount of money to come to your school. After 4 years of digging, no pay for play was found, which is what I assume he meant.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 9:32 am to Whereisomaha
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All that money that we apparently paid Tunsil yet he needs help with a light bill.
Based on certain videos, I'd say he blew the other cash on weed.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 9:33 am to JustGetItRight
Good logic, since weed is so expensive.
Edit: and we are buying players and giving them free cars, but they have to pay for drugs. Wonderful logic
Edit: and we are buying players and giving them free cars, but they have to pay for drugs. Wonderful logic
This post was edited on 5/31/16 at 9:34 am
Posted on 5/31/16 at 9:38 am to Whereisomaha
Here is my prediction with Hugh...
I think OM has another great year, likely in the running til the end for the SECw. May even win it this year.
The NCAA stuff will continue to hang heavily in the air, but will ultimately be a back-burner issue due to the winning.
Texas fires Strong at year's end and Texas hires coach Hugh Freeze as their new head coach.
Freeze heads to Texas as the NCAA hammer is falling on Ole Miss, similar to what Peter Carroll did to USC when he left.
I think OM has another great year, likely in the running til the end for the SECw. May even win it this year.
The NCAA stuff will continue to hang heavily in the air, but will ultimately be a back-burner issue due to the winning.
Texas fires Strong at year's end and Texas hires coach Hugh Freeze as their new head coach.
Freeze heads to Texas as the NCAA hammer is falling on Ole Miss, similar to what Peter Carroll did to USC when he left.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 9:43 am to Whereisomaha
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Whereisomaha
Posted on 5/31/16 at 9:43 am to Tidemeister
This staff has a history of lying to cover tracks. They also lied to Anderson and Pennamon as well in stating that the infractions occurred under the previous staff.
It is actually pretty astounding that Freeze continues to double down on the religious deal to cover his lies.
It is actually pretty astounding that Freeze continues to double down on the religious deal to cover his lies.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 9:44 am to Whereisomaha
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Why isn't this what you quoted and posted from the article? It is actually what was said and meant by the title of the article.
Do you think that makes him look better?
Posted on 5/31/16 at 9:46 am to Whereisomaha
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After 4 years of digging, no pay for play was found, which is what I assume he meant.
A school giving players money is cheating. The loaner car stuff is different.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 9:53 am to DynastyDawg
You're a little obsessed with me aren't you?
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