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re: Reality is Bama fans thought the program was bigger than Saban

Posted on 9/2/25 at 11:42 am to
Posted by aubiecat
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Posted on 9/2/25 at 11:42 am to
Kentucky bought its basketball coach a Cadillac and ignored Bear.
Rich Rod turned bammer down.

That is how you ended up with Bear and Saban.
Posted by captdalton
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Posted on 9/2/25 at 11:46 am to
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Coaches make or break Bama, not the other way around.


Except… Mike Dubose won an SEC championship at Alabama.

He was such a hot commodity after Alabama he landed nothing but primo coaching gigs.

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Posted by paperwasp
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Posted on 9/2/25 at 11:48 am to
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I was mocking you


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moneyg

Posted by captdalton
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Posted on 9/2/25 at 11:50 am to
Are you guys still running with the whole Bear Bryant went straight from Kentucky to Alabama narrative?
Posted by moneyg
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Posted on 9/2/25 at 11:53 am to
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LSU fans can’t let it go that Saban left LSU for Bama lol… it’s been 20 years ago ! Time to let it go.



LSU has won 2 NCs since then...with 2 different coaches. I'd suggest one of the programs is a lot more over Saban than the other.

In fact, a TON of Bama fans are calling to have Saban rehired right now.
Posted by captdalton
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Posted on 9/2/25 at 12:00 pm to
Just gonna leave this here for you to review.

Posted by moneyg
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Posted on 9/2/25 at 12:00 pm to
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captdalton


Bama fans are so defensive about what is simply their way of doing business.

Alabama has 1 tainted national championship in the last 85 years with a coach not named Bryant or Saban.

It's natural to try and repeat what has been successful.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 9/2/25 at 12:01 pm to
They have no idea how to handle this.



All of a sudden it’s about head to head records and not the downfall of a the dynasty that Saban built!

Posted by paperwasp
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Posted on 9/2/25 at 12:01 pm to
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I'd suggest one of the programs is a lot more over Saban than the other

Yes, we know.

This post is a great example.
Posted by captdalton
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Posted on 9/2/25 at 12:01 pm to
You can’t explain a 27-57-5 series record by simply screaming Nick Saban repeatedly. What are your thoughts on how LSU can climb out of the hole they are in?
This post was edited on 9/2/25 at 12:03 pm
Posted by captdalton
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Posted on 9/2/25 at 12:03 pm to
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All of a sudden it’s about head to head records and not the downfall of a the dynasty that Saban built!


We have always rubbed your nose in it. Before Saban, during Saban, after Saban.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 9/2/25 at 12:05 pm to
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captdalton


That chart agrees with what I've been saying. Remove Bear and Saban and it's about .500 (since Bryant took over).

Bama was clearly dominant (not only vs. LSU but overall with Bryant and Saban at the helm).



This post was edited on 9/2/25 at 12:07 pm
Posted by paperwasp
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Posted on 9/2/25 at 12:08 pm to
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Rich Rod turned bammer down

If Alabama had hired Rich Rod and he'd have immediately lost games, what do you think would've happened then?

That we'd just sit there and accept four or five losing seasons in a row?
Posted by moneyg
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Posted on 9/2/25 at 12:16 pm to
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You can’t explain a 27-57-5 series record by simply screaming Nick Saban repeatedly. What are your thoughts on how LSU can climb out of the hole they are in?



I'm not trying to climb out of any hole. I readily acknowledge that Alabama has been dominant with Bryant and Saban. In fact, that's kind of my point.

If you took a step back and stopped being so sensitive, you'd realize that your chart makes my point. It's who Alabama is. There's no running from it. We have damn near 85 years of evidence.
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 9/2/25 at 12:16 pm to
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Having Joe Burrow, Justin Jefferson, Jamarr Chase, Clyde Edwards-Hellaire, the Joe Moore winning top offensive line, Grant Delpit, Derek Stingley and Joe Brady wouldn’t hurt either


Holy shite man. Any team lucky enough to get all that, in the same season, would be the best team of all time. Hands down. There could be zero argument about it.
Posted by LSUbub12
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Posted on 9/2/25 at 12:32 pm to
Bama is the gold standard of college football, no denying that.
You can’t say if not for bear and Saban bc those 2 did happen.
But it’s worth mentioning that there has been 89 complete szns in the poll era. 42 of those were the best and Saban years that yielded 12 national championships.
In the other 47, they have 1 and the current coach isn’t Saban or bear.
Posted by captdalton
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Posted on 9/2/25 at 12:34 pm to
So you suggest we scrub 42 seasons away. Ok.

If you remove Bear’s 20 games the series record is 41-23-5.

If you then remove Saban’s 17 games the series record is 29-18-5.

LSU still has a losing record in the series without Bear and Saban.

If we do the same exercise and remove 27 seasons from LSU (the 1980s, Nick Saban, and Les Miles) the series record is 14-41-4. The crazy thing is that Alabama loses more wins, 16, than does LSU,13, during that period. So even during LSU’s most successful periods they still had a losing record to Alabama.

Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 9/2/25 at 12:38 pm to
Tennessee was the SEC’s winningest program the day Bear was hired at Alabama.

There are probably a dozen or so programs either Bear or Saban could have done the same type of things at. That’s fairly small company so obviously bama has a lot of built in advantages most schools don’t have.

At the same time having one of the top 5 all time coaches at your school for 42 of the last 67 years or whatever it is makes a hell of a difference. One played there and the other was timed just right. Luck to a point but Saban only leaves Miami for one of those dozen or so schools.
This post was edited on 9/2/25 at 12:40 pm
Posted by ChefLSU
Member since Aug 2025
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Posted on 9/2/25 at 12:38 pm to
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captdalton


rough weekend for this troll
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
61591 posts
Posted on 9/2/25 at 1:15 pm to
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So you suggest we scrub 42 seasons away. Ok.



Are you retarded or something?

I'm not suggesting you scrub it away. I'm doing the opposite. I'm suggesting you attempt to follow the same model because your success has been almost nil without it.

Can you not read?
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