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re: Ranking the SEC Academically - US News 2014

Posted on 9/10/13 at 7:47 am to
Posted by Dawg in Beaumont
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Posted on 9/10/13 at 7:47 am to
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UGA, A&M, WE COMIN FOR YALL


Funny, at my high school once people were denied admission to UGA they were comin for yall with the quickness.

In all seriousness, I know Bama is a good school and I'm sure very fun to attend. Always had a good time in T-Town
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 9/10/13 at 7:54 am to
I can believe the top four being about right. Beyond that, I'm skeptical.
Posted by BAMAisDIESEL09
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Posted on 9/10/13 at 7:55 am to
Ohhhh... so thats why so many ppl from the state of Georgia go to Bama.

I wish Alabama had something similar to the Hope Scholarship... It definitely has done a lot for UGA.
Posted by PRK
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Posted on 9/10/13 at 7:57 am to
What is in-state tuition at Bama?
Posted by mwlewis
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Posted on 9/10/13 at 7:57 am to
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135 LSU
142 MSU
150 OM

Hey LSU; thank God for Mississippi AMIRITE?!
Posted by BAMAisDIESEL09
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Posted on 9/10/13 at 8:03 am to
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What is in-state tuition at Bama?


Per the UA website Tuition/Room & Board:

In-state: $23,406 (Tuition $10,250)
Out-of-State: $37,906 (Tuition $24,750)
This post was edited on 9/10/13 at 8:05 am
Posted by GeorgeReymond
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Posted on 9/10/13 at 8:11 am to
LSU2015

Interesting list, I still don't see how the major 3-4 ranking services can have such disparity in rankings.

LSU is about to begin their major overhaul/streamlining campaign. The link above is the final report the Transition Advisory Team put together after months & months of bringing in speakers/chancellors with knowledge and experience in various facets of a university. I know Gordon Gee(tOSU) spoke, a head at Michigan, numerous CEO's, and an array of experts across the nation were brought in.

I know previously each LSU campus/college (LSU, LSUA, LSUHSC-S&NO, LSUE, LSUS, LSUAg, LSU College of Ag, Pennington Bio, etc) would compete against each other for grant money and would not share money that was brought in. If I have read correctly, communication and collaboration on research and ect between campuses was very rare. This will be a huge change.

LSU plans to implement a common application, create an unified course numbering system across campuses, increase graduate enrollment, increase undergraduate & graduate research, increase out of state enrollment by ~20% and there's ton of other objectives. I've kept up to date with the whole deal and watched 5-6 task-force meetings and it's crazy how wasteful the LSU system has been (e.g. the amount of administrative jobs that can be consolidated)

The report is long as hell but if that stuff interests you, it's a good read.
This post was edited on 9/10/13 at 8:15 am
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 9/10/13 at 8:14 am to
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Ohhhh... so thats why so many ppl from the state of Georgia go to Bama


Hope has made it so instate student in GA really have to have the qualifications to get in, and they are up there. not as stringent though for out of state coming in. but yes it has pushed GA student out of state, there really aren't a lot of good options after UGA for in state.
Posted by Tom288
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Posted on 9/10/13 at 8:15 am to
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there really aren't a lot of good options after UGA for in state.




I've heard that GA Tech and Emory aren't bad.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 9/10/13 at 8:16 am to
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I've heard that GA Tech and Emory aren't bad.


great schools, but specialized
Posted by Tom288
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Posted on 9/10/13 at 8:17 am to
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great schools, but specialized


I should have included an emoticon to illustrate the sarcasm attached to that comment...
Posted by Dawg in Beaumont
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Posted on 9/10/13 at 8:19 am to
Georgia College and North Georgia are on par with Auburn and Bama as far as selectivity. Now, they are obviously far behind regarding the other things college has to offer socially.

I completely understand why students want to go to an SEC school even if it's out of state, but the HOPE scholarship has also helped Georgia's other schools (particularly Georgia College and North Georgia).
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 9/10/13 at 8:25 am to
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Georgia College and North Georgia are on par with Auburn and Bama as far as selectivity


maybe as far as how many people apply vs how many they accept, but thats where it ends. as far as requirements and stats, they are well below.
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 9/10/13 at 8:28 am to
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I wish Alabama had something similar to the Hope Scholarship


Too many God fearing bible beaters who think the lottery is evil for the Hope.

Its a great thing and would be great for the state but it will never happen.
Posted by Daviskenn
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Posted on 9/10/13 at 8:30 am to
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150 OM


Why aren't we better at Football?
Posted by engie
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Posted on 9/10/13 at 8:38 am to
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They allow you to compare at a glance the relative quality of institutions based on such widely accepted indicators of excellence as freshman retention and graduation rates and the strength of the faculty. And as you check out the data for colleges already on your short list, you may discover unfamiliar schools with similar metrics, and thus broaden your options.


MSU and OM will always be last on lists like this basically over a court mandate. Feel free to research the Ayers Case and get back to us. It forces MSU/OM to keep admission standards identical to the HBCU in the state(it does not force either of us to simplify our curriculum). So, we let in a boatload of students that are unqualified to be there. Then, naturally, they flunk out very early in their collegiate career. Double whammy -- last in every ranking that uses these factors -- and we haven't established a DAMN THING about the quality of education available at either school. Don't even get me started on how this case hurts the very institutions it intended to help(and the state as a whole) -- had these students gone to the other colleges and not tried their luck at MSU/OM...
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 9/10/13 at 8:51 am to
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I've always wondered why Missouri isn't higher because of their AAU status.


Because AAU status isn't really all that big of a deal.
Posted by VinnieCeesChaser
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Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 9/10/13 at 9:00 am to
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MSU and OM will always be last on lists like this basically over a court mandate. Feel free to research the Ayers Case and get back to us. It forces MSU/OM to keep admission standards identical to the HBCU in the state(it does not force either of us to simplify our curriculum). So, we let in a boatload of students that are unqualified to be there. Then, naturally, they flunk out very early in their collegiate career. Double whammy -- last in every ranking that uses these factors -- and we haven't established a DAMN THING about the quality of education available at either school. Don't even get me started on how this case hurts the very institutions it intended to help(and the state as a whole) -- had these students gone to the other colleges and not tried their luck at MSU/OM...


Didn't read.

Ya'll still last
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 9/10/13 at 9:02 am to
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Because AAU status isn't really all that big of a deal


This^^^

its more about research than student body
Posted by Beer Bryant
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Posted on 9/10/13 at 9:03 am to
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HBCU


All about Federal Aid. Enroll, get govt. grants & loans, you get a Degree. Then, get a government job. Funny how that works. Well, actually it isn't funny.
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