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re: Rank this schedule

Posted on 12/2/10 at 5:58 pm to
Posted by BhamDore
Nashville
Member since Aug 2009
6294 posts
Posted on 12/2/10 at 5:58 pm to
Any of the top 4 teams in the West and Scar could all beat Oregon. I'm not saying all would, but it would be a pick'em against all top 5 teams in the SEC this year.
Posted by geauxtigahs87
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2008
26267 posts
Posted on 12/2/10 at 6:01 pm to
quote:

Stanford 11-1, Arizona 7-4, USC 7-5

All blown out by Oregon

Cal and a 10 point win at Arizona state are the only two games they didn't win by at least 3 touchdowns. That's pretty impressive for anyone in a BCS conference
This post was edited on 12/2/10 at 6:02 pm
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36140 posts
Posted on 12/2/10 at 6:01 pm to
1 Oregon
2 Arkansas
3 Alabama
4 South Carolina
Posted by colemab
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
72 posts
Posted on 12/2/10 at 6:03 pm to
quote:

quote:
Oregon's opponents
One of which is an SEC team.


Try as you might to make it otherwise, UT (6-6) is not relative in this conversation as they are not representative of the SEC as a whole this year and the west for sure.

I mean shite man at least pick a team with a positive Win:Loss ratio.

This would be like me presenting Oregon State or Washington or Arizona State (all with 5-6 records) as being representative of the PAC-10.
This post was edited on 12/2/10 at 6:05 pm
Posted by Vols22
Ft. Wood, Missouri
Member since Sep 2010
1349 posts
Posted on 12/2/10 at 6:05 pm to
quote:

UT (6-6) is not relative in this conversation


From your previous post
quote:


Oregon's opponents are a combined 55-71 (.436)


Make up you mind.
Posted by BhamDore
Nashville
Member since Aug 2009
6294 posts
Posted on 12/2/10 at 6:12 pm to
Pac 10 football is not a good brand of football. Nobody this side of the mississippi is impressed.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
65931 posts
Posted on 12/2/10 at 6:14 pm to
quote:

Alabama
Arkansas
South Carolina
Oregon


As I look at this I see something totally different than most.

I would rank them

1a and 1b Oregon/Arkansas
2a and 2b USC/Bama

Of the four, Arky and Oregon have/had the best chance of just scoring at will... Auburn had no "mistakes" scoring 65 on Arkansas and gave up 43 (with 3 mistakes...big ones).

Bama and USC are "equally" tough but they dictate a different game and have/could be won using defense and not relying solely on the O to score every time Au has the ball.

JMO
Posted by Vols22
Ft. Wood, Missouri
Member since Sep 2010
1349 posts
Posted on 12/2/10 at 6:14 pm to
quote:

Pac 10 football is not a good brand of football.


Not the point. He used Oregon's opponents being crappy as part of his argument and when I said one of those crappy teams was an SEC team he said UT was relative to the conversation.
Posted by Vols22
Ft. Wood, Missouri
Member since Sep 2010
1349 posts
Posted on 12/2/10 at 6:17 pm to
That being said if you remove UT from Oregon's schedule the winning percentage of their opponents goes down.
Posted by pabgolf
baton rouge
Member since Dec 2009
1901 posts
Posted on 12/2/10 at 6:20 pm to
Vanderbilt would finish last in Pac 10 as well, so shut up about LSU.....

Oregon
Bama
S Carolina (because of Spurrier)
Arky
Posted by colemab
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
72 posts
Posted on 12/3/10 at 8:44 am to
quote:

Not the point. He used Oregon's opponents being crappy as part of his argument and when I said one of those crappy teams was an SEC team he said UT was relative to the conversation.


I thought that you were pointing out an SEC team in Oregon schedule to help explain why everyone was putting them at the top of this ranking, e.g. they play tougher teams.

I never thought a UT fan would point out them playing Oregon as a reason to support my point that their SOS is weak. If that was you intention then they are relevant to the conversation.
This post was edited on 12/3/10 at 8:45 am
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
82060 posts
Posted on 12/3/10 at 8:54 am to
quote:

Any of the top 4 teams in the West and Scar could all beat Oregon. I'm not saying all would, but it would be a pick'em against all top 5 teams in the SEC this year.


No it wouldn't. Using a few ratings, Oregon would be favored by 5 Vs Auburn, by 6 over Alabama, by 7 over Arkansas, 8 over LSU and 11 over SC. All on a neutral field. Note that if these games were to happen the public perception would make the lines tighter for LSU, Alabama and Auburn; and the line would probably be bigger for Arkansas and SC.

That said Oregon's schedule has been a joke a this year and would be very challenged by those teams except SC, I think they would play tight the whole game then lose by like 20.
Posted by spslayto
Member since Feb 2004
19732 posts
Posted on 12/3/10 at 8:58 am to
What the hell does Oklahoma know about beating the SEC in BCS games?
Posted by spiderpig
Fayetteville, NC
Member since Nov 2010
43 posts
Posted on 12/3/10 at 9:17 am to
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Vanderbilt would finish last in Pac 10 as well, so shut up about LSU.....


Nah. They'd finish 9th. Washington State is easily worse than Vandy -- which beat Ole Miss.

Meanwhile, Hogs beat South Carolina by 21 at Columbia (and it wasn't even that close) and you rank the Chickens ahead of the Hogs? Dude, at least pretend to have a clue. I can understand putting Bama ahead of us, but not the Chickens.
Posted by pabgolf
baton rouge
Member since Dec 2009
1901 posts
Posted on 12/3/10 at 9:20 am to
I do have a clue, and you beat them by 21. Congrats, but I would still take Spurrier in a big game over your Arky team. Congrats though!
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
82060 posts
Posted on 12/3/10 at 9:33 am to
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What the hell does Oklahoma know about beating the SEC in BCS games?


At least we have a chance to be in a BCS game this year
Posted by beaverfever
Little Rock
Member since Jan 2008
32750 posts
Posted on 12/3/10 at 9:38 am to
I think Bama/Ark are about even and Oregon is probably a hair better than SC. Seriously I can't believe some of yall are buying the Oregon hype. They are going to get exposed in the NCG.
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